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arista 29-06-2014 04:52 PM

Surrey : Paedophile who raped and killed boy, 14, is back on the streets
 
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[Roaming the streets: Robert Oliver, 58, has been moved to a bail hostel in Guildford,
Surrey, which is just 500 yards from a primary school]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz363213C46

joeysteele 29-06-2014 05:17 PM

Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.

arista 29-06-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6994442)
Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.


Bang On Right
Joey

Ramsay 29-06-2014 05:39 PM

How is this possible?

Kazanne 29-06-2014 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6994442)
Sorry but this man should never have been let out, he was part of a truly obnoxious group of people who were responsible for some really sickening crimes against young boys.

I recall at Uni researching and reading about about the historical murder,committed in 1985,of one his victims and it was horrendous to get through.

I really cannot hide the contempt that I think this man should be held in,a truly vile and rotten from the core individual.

Amen to that Joey,bloody filth should be done away with

Vicky. 29-06-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 6994488)
How is this possible?

Because so many believe rehabilitation for people like this is more important than punishment/keeping others safe...

Achilles 29-06-2014 10:20 PM

Why are people shocked that the Government have such lenient laws for paedophiles and child killers? :shrug:

Kizzy 29-06-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 6995461)
Why are people shocked that the Government have such lenient laws for paedophiles and child killers? :shrug:

Don't get me started..... :idc:

Samuel. 29-06-2014 10:32 PM

I believe in rehabilitation for everybody, but this clearly isn't that

Kizzy 29-06-2014 11:03 PM

I'm surprised that people think it's possible :conf: ... It's like those gay rahab camps! Not possible!

Nedusa 30-06-2014 11:07 AM

I'm confused about this man, either he was part of the Paedo ring that abducted tortured, raped and murdered Jason swift or he wasn't.

Although he escaped a life sentence along with the others for this crime he was convicted of manslaughter and got 10 years.

So was he part of this vile ring or not. Looks to me like he was and the courts thought so too hence the conviction for manslaughter.

Easy to see why this man keeps his head down....question marks still remain over his degree of involvement.

Niamh. 30-06-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6994506)
Because so many believe rehabilitation for people like this is more important than punishment/keeping others safe...

This is what pisses me off, I say it everytime someone pleads the rehabilitation case for people like this. The only way to "test" if it works on these people is to send them back into society and risk the lives of innocent children, how is a guy who's done that to one child alreadys' life worth more than any innocent child out there?

Cal. 30-06-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6995591)
I'm surprised that people think it's possible :conf: ... It's like those gay rahab camps! Not possible!

I think rehabilitation is possible. I mean, look at Mary Bell, killed two little boys when she was eleven but now she's a mother and a grandmother.

Jack_ 30-06-2014 11:28 PM

You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

Kizzy 01-07-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 6998661)
I think rehabilitation is possible. I mean, look at Mary Bell, killed two little boys when she was eleven but now she's a mother and a grandmother.

She was a psychopath and a child, not an adult peadophile.

Kizzy 01-07-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6998786)
You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

If you're a sexual sadist that's always going to be a taboo I hope, this guy was part of an evil murderous gang of extreme sexual deviants... That will never change regardless of any interventions.

Niamh. 01-07-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6998786)
You can't stop someone being attracted to children, but I do think you can lower the chances of them acting on those urges if they've done so in the past. If anything I think the longer someone spends in prison only to then be released (it'd be different if they weren't ever but let's be real that isn't going to happen in most cases) the more chance they have of re-offending, and that goes for most crimes tbh

Anyway sexual attacks on children would be a lot less frequent if paedophillia wasn't such a taboo topic in society and they got more support so

No you can't stop people being attracted to children but that's not the issue, the issue is those people who act on it knowing full well that by doing so they are destroying an innocent childs life but doing it anyway. If every non-paedophile acted on all their urges the world would be full of rapists, but the vast majority of people know that violating a person like that is wrong and wouldn't do it.

Achilles 01-07-2014 05:57 PM

I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

Verbal 01-07-2014 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7000586)
I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

My argument to that is that mental health care should be much better than it is, to pick these people out before they do anything. Nobody is born a crazed murderer.

Mental health care in the US is very poor, which is why you see so many lunatics shooting people every single week.

Vanessa 01-07-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7000586)
I believe in the death penalty for all violent crimes and sex crimes. The victim doesn't get a second chance so why should the criminal? The rights of all law abiding members of society are more important than the rights of one individual member of society. Death penalty for all whether it is a Fred West, a Savile or a Venables and Thompson.

:clap2:

Ninastar 01-07-2014 06:44 PM

yes, lets blame society for pedophiles who act on innocent children... nothing to do with them going ahead with it out of their own choice

GypsyGoth 01-07-2014 07:15 PM

Support should be given to the victims, not the pedophiles or potential pedophiles. They should be given a suicide booth so they can go die.

Kizzy 01-07-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 7000869)
Support should be given to the victims, not the pedophiles or potential pedophiles. They should be given a suicide booth so they can go die.

This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

Niamh. 02-07-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7002076)
This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

I agree with that, someone who feels such urges but has never acted on them has done nothing wrong, you can't help what or who you're attracted to but you can help what you choose to act on.

GypsyGoth 02-07-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7002076)
This makes no sense, you're either a paedophile or you're not. The question is are you a predatory paedophile? unless they've committed an offence then they're innocent people with a deviant sexual urge.
In this case it's clear he did act and in the most heinous way possible, I have no qualms in saying I wish they could chemically and physically castrate for these crimes.
Or labotomise them.

If it makes no sense to you I shall explain it clearer.

I think those planning to molest children should go and ****ing die. And that's what it is, child molestation, it's not about some poor adult being attracted to children.

But I'm sure there will be enough left over for you to do your experiments on, or for Jack to take to group therapy.


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