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James 18-09-2006 10:17 PM

Ofcom clears Big Brother of neglect
 
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Big Brother cleared of neglect

Chris Tryhorn

Monday September 18, 2006
MediaGuardian.co.uk

Ofcom has cleared Channel 4 over complaints that Big Brother contestants' welfare was neglected and that the broadcaster had condoned inappropriate behaviour.

The media regulator received complaints from 272 viewers over the course of the programme's seventh series, which ran between May and August.

But Ofcom decided Big Brother had stayed within the bounds of acceptable programming and had not breached the broadcasting code.

Complainants felt that some contestants. such as Shahbaz Chaudhry or Pete Bennett, who suffers from Tourette's syndrome, should not have participated in the programme.

They suggested viewers were being invited to "laugh at others less fortunate than ourselves" and were concerned that Channel 4 was neglecting its duty of care towards contestants.

Ofcom said it was not its responsibility to override "informed decisions" made by adults to participate in reality TV shows.

Referring to Bennett, the show's eventual winner, Ofcom said: "There is rightly no reason why someone with a disability cannot and should not exercise the same degree of informed choice as any other adult - including choosing to enter the Big Brother house."

The watchdog also said Channel 4 had intervened in matters relating to its duty of care; for instance, through conversations with contestants in the Big Brother diary room.

Ofcom also cleared the programme of including and condoning inappropriate behaviour such as bullying and emotional distress.

It said viewers and contestants had got to know what the Big Brother formula was like after six previous series.

"It is to some extent expected that high emotion, disagreements, and separation into partisan groups may result," Ofcom said.

"By including scenes featuring individuals upset and in conflict with other housemates, Channel 4 offered viewers an insight into the housemates' characters. In Ofcom's view this is in line with both the audience and the contestants' expectations."

Ofcom said the material shown did not dwell on distress or humiliation longer than was editorially necessary and the production team had treated emotionally charged characters such as Chaudhry "sensitively and responsibly".

The watchdog also felt the programme had been edited to protect children from unsuitable material when shown before the watershed.

When it came to the eviction of contestants, which often saw them subjected to abuse from the baying crowds outside the house, Ofcom said it had become customary to treat unpopular housemates like a "pantomime villain".

"Although some may view this as unpleasant, we felt that this behaviour did not exceed generally accepted standards in the context of this particular programme."
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Diablo 19-09-2006 04:20 PM

Good!! :thumbs:

All the compaliners should get themselves a life!
:devil:

tropical_sunset 19-09-2006 04:23 PM

or just not watch it in the first place!

Chrizzle 19-09-2006 04:24 PM

People who complain arent real BB fans.
Even people who complained about the Nikki thing arent real BB fans

No Big Brother fan would complain and get it into trouble

stacey 19-09-2006 08:01 PM

i know even if i didnt agree with something big brother did i wouldnt complain because your complaint could make it stop

James 19-09-2006 09:30 PM

Ofcom seem to be going along with the Endemol line on booing: 'it's all pantomine'. :shocked:

tropical_sunset 19-09-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by James
Ofcom seem to be going along with the Endemol line on booing: 'it's all pantomine'. :shocked:
yes, not sure why that is. Cant remember who the first hm was to get it now, maybe adele??

Smeggypants 20-09-2006 12:19 AM

Those 272 people who complained are really ****ing stupid.

Anyone with half a brain cell knows that the contestants enter the competition and appear on the programme of theirown free will and fully expect to be criticised in a harsh way if they act like an idiot.

Still there will always be people in the world who wish to dictate to others how they should act.

Ruth 20-09-2006 03:23 PM

I think it's very insulting to call people stupid because they complain. How can anyone say they shouldn't complain - the complaints system exists for that very reason.


Smeggypants wroteStill there will always be people in the world who wish to dictate to others how they should act.

So what you're saying is that if someone disagrees with something, or wishes to make a complaint, they shouldn't be allowed to? So in that case, Endemol are the ones who are doing the dictating. Or even you are - you think people shouldn't complain, yet it is their absolute right to complain. It seems as if you are saying that if people do what you agree with, they have the right to dictate to others, but if you disagree with what they do, then they should shut up.

Ruth 20-09-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Chrizzle
People who complain arent real BB fans.
Even people who complained about the Nikki thing arent real BB fans

No Big Brother fan would complain and get it into trouble
I take your point, but if Big Brother did something that you really disagreed with, why on earth shouldn't you complain? If they behave wrongly, maybe they should get it into trouble.

Mind you, I could have predicted the outcome of these complaints. Big Brother will always be ruled to have done nothing wrong.

dragonleader 20-09-2006 09:32 PM

i knew Ch4 wouldn't allow anything that would break rules.

Smeggypants 21-09-2006 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ruth
I think it's very insulting to call people stupid because they complain. How can anyone say they shouldn't complain - the complaints system exists for that very reason.


Smeggypants wroteStill there will always be people in the world who wish to dictate to others how they should act.

So what you're saying is that if someone disagrees with something, or wishes to make a complaint, they shouldn't be allowed to? So in that case, Endemol are the ones who are doing the dictating. Or even you are - you think people shouldn't complain, yet it is their absolute right to complain. It seems as if you are saying that if people do what you agree with, they have the right to dictate to others, but if you disagree with what they do, then they should shut up.
Erm excuse me? But where did I say people didn't have the right to complain. People have every right to complain.

I called them stupid because their reasons for complaining IMO are stupid.

Once again as you obviously didn't read my previous post properly..... the people who enter Big Brother are doing so of their own free will and fully expect and give their consent to the pantomime. So why would someone complain about them being laughed at and taunted?

And just those complainers have a right to voice their opinion, so do I.

Out of interest...Why did you make such false assumptions about my previous post?

Ruth 21-09-2006 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Smeggypants
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
I think it's very insulting to call people stupid because they complain. How can anyone say they shouldn't complain - the complaints system exists for that very reason.


Smeggypants wroteStill there will always be people in the world who wish to dictate to others how they should act.

So what you're saying is that if someone disagrees with something, or wishes to make a complaint, they shouldn't be allowed to? So in that case, Endemol are the ones who are doing the dictating. Or even you are - you think people shouldn't complain, yet it is their absolute right to complain. It seems as if you are saying that if people do what you agree with, they have the right to dictate to others, but if you disagree with what they do, then they should shut up.
Erm excuse me? But where did I say people didn't have the right to complain. People have every right to complain.

I called them stupid because their reasons for complaining IMO are stupid.

Once again as you obviously didn't read my previous post properly..... the people who enter Big Brother are doing so of their own free will and fully expect and give their consent to the pantomime. So why would someone complain about them being laughed at and taunted?

And just those complainers have a right to voice their opinion, so do I.

Out of interest...Why did you make such false assumptions about my previous post?
Maybe because you didn't make your point very well.

You said "the people who complain are really ****ing stupid." That's very insulting. Do you think that everybody who doesn't agree with you is "really ****ing stupid?"

Yes, people do have the right to complain - and they have the right to do so without being insulted.

Then you said, "Still there will always be people in the world who wish to dictate to others how they should act."

Who is dictating? People are saying that they don't agree with something. That's quite different to dictating. To your knowledge, did anybody who complained dictate how Big Brother should be run? I think it more likely that they complained about what had happened in the last series. There's a big difference between the two.

Diablo 21-09-2006 10:37 AM

I'm glad BB was cleared, I think the complaints (& complainers) were stupid!

if you don't like a tv show then why sit and watch it & then complain?

Some people just complain about things as a hobby cos they have nothing else going on in their lives.

quite sad really...

Ruth 21-09-2006 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Diablo
I'm glad BB was cleared, I think the complaints (& complainers) were stupid!

if you don't like a tv show then why sit and watch it & then complain?

Some people just complain about things as a hobby cos they have nothing else going on in their lives.

quite sad really...
Sigh.

First of all, let me say that I did not personally complain.

I think people might watch the show because they may have been a fan in the past, so understandably thought they would watch it again. I personally watched and enjoyed BB3, BB5 and BB6, so I was looking forward to this last series. After about a week I realised it was going to be rubbish (in my opinion) so I stopped watching, although I did catch bits and pieces of it.

Do you always think people are stupid if they raise an objection about something? Have you ever watched, read, or heard something and thought that it was rubbish? Wouldn't you like the option to be able to say so without being insulted?

Diablo 21-09-2006 10:48 AM

NO i don't always think people are stupid if they raise an objection about something.

I think people are stupid if they take the time to complain about nothing. IMO these complaints were about nothing. Probably a lot of the same "serial complainers" who complain about Irn Bru ads, etc etc etc etc etc...... :sleep:

Ofcom have cleared BB so that says enough.

:dazzler:

Ruth 21-09-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Diablo
NO i don't always think people are stupid if they raise an objection about something.

I think people are stupid if they take the time to complain about nothing. IMO these complaints were about nothing. Probably a lot of the same "serial complainers" who complain about Irn Bru ads, etc etc etc etc etc...... :sleep:

Ofcom have cleared BB so that says enough.

:dazzler:
In your opinion, the complaints are about nothing. But not everyone shares your opinion.

Ofcom were always going to clear BB - that much was obvious.

J.C. 21-09-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diablo
NO i don't always think people are stupid if they raise an objection about something.

I think people are stupid if they take the time to complain about nothing. IMO these complaints were about nothing. Probably a lot of the same "serial complainers" who complain about Irn Bru ads, etc etc etc etc etc...... :sleep:

Ofcom have cleared BB so that says enough.

:dazzler:
Lol ... `The serial complainers`..... Well I would like to complain about the complainers complaining!One would have thought there were more important things to get worked up about in this crazy world, but as you say that is their right, so we are all right, allright!!!:spin2::spin2:

Ruth 21-09-2006 12:19 PM

LOL - I agree with you actually J.C. But then, you could say that about so many things couldn't you? There are more important things to get worked up about complaining about the complainers! There are more important things that should be done instead of watching tv, or coming on a forum. But sometimes we like to do some of the less important things.

Don't mind me - I enjoy these debates. It's just one of my pet hates is when people call others 'stupid' or equivalent, just because they have a different opinion. It's rude and it's ignorant.

J.C. 21-09-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
LOL - I agree with you actually J.C. But then, you could say that about so many things couldn't you? There are more important things to get worked up about complaining about the complainers! There are more important things that should be done instead of watching tv, or coming on a forum. But sometimes we like to do some of the less important things.

Don't mind me - I enjoy these debates. It's just one of my pet hates is when people call others 'stupid' or equivalent, just because they have a different opinion. It's rude and it's ignorant.
Yes, I must admit as i was making my tongue in cheek remarks i was thinking exactly your point. Here I am on Forum
giving opinions on this or that ,and yet I could be spending time raising money for charity or whatever... time is money afterall.
Infact i`m usually working on the telephone whilst online and i`m a bit stuck at the moment with a broken ankle but you make a good point. I suppose the difference is that this forum is a bit of fun, whereas taking time to make a serious complaint about something that isn`t that significant seems a lot less fun, even a bit of a waste of time.I work on the basis that its all ok unless someone gets hurt, and clearly no
one gets hurt when these people make their complaints.

REVOLUTION 21-09-2006 05:19 PM

SHAME ON ALL THE COMPLAINERS:tongue::tongue::tongue: they really thought it would get BB in trouble well now you all know Bb DIDNT break ANY rules so HAHAHA:bouncy:.

Did you watch a programme on E4 about X-rated programmes it was stupid people complaining about stupid things like people haveing s** PASt the watershed and people STILL moaning, there was one woman who really got on my nerves she was one of the complainers stupid C*w


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