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Yaki da 03-07-2014 02:56 PM

The rather blatant attempt by them to redeem Helen
 
Comedy tasks. The editing of a softer, more caring Helen. None of the sex talk that seems to still go on and motivates a lot of the negativity towards her from others.

I dare say even the editing of Ashleigh, though it is making her popularity go up, is all about trying to transfer some of the hatred for Helen onto her. Posts such as "She's just as bad as Helen" seem to suggest it is working on some.

Could the producers/editors be any more blatant?

Adamw92 03-07-2014 02:57 PM

I don't get it, we're seeing the same nasty bitchy Ashleigh we've been seeing for the last week or so, there's no editing to make her look bad.

Niamh. 03-07-2014 02:58 PM

I agree, I hope it doesn't work otherwise Ashleigh will be out next week

Josy 03-07-2014 03:03 PM

How can people blame Helen for Ashleigh bitching though? she's been bitching for a couple of weeks now and it's got more and more every highlights show.

As for Helen I would say she was getting the same edit as she always has, she was bitching last night just like she always has...not sure when she had any part in a comedy task?

Lets be honest if Ashleigh is nominated and out next week then it's her own doing, no one elses :umm2:

Yaki da 03-07-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 7006240)
I don't get it, we're seeing the same nasty bitchy Ashleigh we've been seeing for the last week or so, there's no editing to make her look bad.

Of course there is, but it's editing by omission. You only show one thing that she does and leave everything else that may give a more complete picture on the cutting room floor.

Same with Helen. They are clearly trying to redeem her and giving her fun tasks to make her look good which they will then edit in the most positive light whilst cutting out all the vulgarity.

Yaki da 03-07-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7006255)
How can people blame Helen for Ashleigh bitching though?

Who is?

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she's been bitching for a couple of weeks now and it's got more and more every highlights show.

As for Helen I would say she was getting the same edit as she always has, she was bitching last night just like she always has...not sure when she had any part in a comedy task?
She's got a task that is all about her trying to be funny today. And it is clearly the case that they have been trying to soften her image over the last 3 or 4 days.

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Lets be honest if Ashleigh is nominated and out next week then it's her own doing, no one elses :umm2:
Not really. The edit always decides these things, especially if it's close.

Josy 03-07-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7006259)
Who is?



She's got a task that is all about her trying to be funny today. And it is clearly the case that they have been trying to soften her image over the last 3 or 4 days.



Not really. The edit always decides these things, especially if it's close.

Well the way your OP comes across is Helen is getting a good edit Ashleigh is getting a bad one, Ashleigh bitches there is no denying that..

I disagree she's (Helen) getting a good edit, if she was they would have omitted all her bitching from last nights highlights.

If Helen has a 'fun' task then it will be her first secret task this series, they all get one at some point or another.

chuff me dizzy 03-07-2014 03:07 PM

They are trying ,but I doubt it will work,even on BOTS they have changed tack ,every show now they are pushing the "vulnerable " tag on her ,vulnerable my ass ,shes nasty and likes to make others feel vulnerable

Yaki da 03-07-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7006271)
Well the way your OP comes across is Helen is getting a good edit Ashleigh is getting a bad one, Ashleigh bitches there is no denying that..

I'm not blaming Helen for that.

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I disagree she's (Helen) getting a good edit, if she was they would have omitted all her bitching from last nights highlights.
They wouldn't have a HL show that made sense if they did that.


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If Helen has a 'fun' task then it will be her first secret task this series, they all get one at some point or another.
Possibly. Let's see how it continues...

Josy 03-07-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7006277)
I'm not blaming Helen for that.



They wouldn't have a HL show that made sense if they did that.




Possibly. Let's see how it continues...

Ok fair enough I took your comment in the OP to mean something different from what you meant.

They could really just leave Helen's bitchiest comments out and have the highlight's still make sense though.

Beso 03-07-2014 03:28 PM

Get helen out, save our ashleigh..she's a darling.

Josy 03-07-2014 03:29 PM

The thing is, I don't think it would be possible for them to give Helen a great edit even if they wanted to :laugh:

smeagol 03-07-2014 03:30 PM

she must be giving away free handjobs to the producers in that diary room or something

it wont work

Patricia4 03-07-2014 03:31 PM

Helen is still the nasty evil co* she's been from the start.

Vanessa 03-07-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7006255)
How can people blame Helen for Ashleigh bitching though? she's been bitching for a couple of weeks now and it's got more and more every highlights show.

As for Helen I would say she was getting the same edit as she always has, she was bitching last night just like she always has...not sure when she had any part in a comedy task?

Lets be honest if Ashleigh is nominated and out next week then it's her own doing, no one elses :umm2:

This! Ashleigh blames her misery on Helen. She takes no responsibility over her own actions. No doubt if she goes she'll blame her as well. :bored:

Bluerang1 03-07-2014 04:17 PM

Going by comments on here it's working :idc:

Kazanne 03-07-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7006236)
Comedy tasks. The editing of a softer, more caring Helen. None of the sex talk that seems to still go on and motivates a lot of the negativity towards her from others.

I dare say even the editing of Ashleigh, though it is making her popularity go up, is all about trying to transfer some of the hatred for Helen onto her. Posts such as "She's just as bad as Helen" seem to suggest it is working on some.

Could the producers/editors be any more blatant?

Of course it's ALL fixed to show Ashleigh in a bad light,afterall that wasn't really Ashleigh bitching it was an apparition:joker: the desperation of some to force the Ashleigh love on us:hehe:

Marsh. 03-07-2014 04:47 PM

Ashleigh's been like this for a few weeks, it's nothing new.

Helen's still being bitchy, she's just watching her step more when it comes to her temper because she knows she's on her last warnings with Big Brother.

I get a little tired of the editing card being played either way tbh. It's not Big Brother's fault that Ashleigh spends a lot of time bitching. They wouldn't be able to "edit" her that way if she was doing nothing.

jet 03-07-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7006514)
Of course it's ALL fixed to show Ashleigh in a bad light,afterall that wasn't really Ashleigh bitching it was an apparition:joker: the desperation of some to force the Ashleigh love on us:hehe:

Yes, Ashleigh bitches, but it doesn't show her doing anything else. She can't bitch for 16 hours a day - she must be talking to people - having normal conversations. Even when Helen was her worst, it showed her talking with the boys quite normally at times.
Their recent storyline they wanted to push centred around the conflict between Helen and Ashleigh so it suited them to show it exactly as they did and cut anything else out that wasn't relevant. They've done it before many times and they'll do it again. But you know that already. :hmph:

Sophiee 03-07-2014 05:52 PM

there's different sides to everyone and I'm pleased we're getting to see these with helen. I don't think anything can redeem her after some of her antics in there, and as matthew said last night it's much easier to go from cheers to boos than vice versa.


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