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the truth 22-07-2014 02:59 PM

fathers who want to raise their baby alone?
 
if a mother doesnt want to keep her new born baby and has split from the father and says she wants to put it up for adoption? but the dad wants to raise the baby, but the mother doesnt want him too because she feels a baby must have mother?

what is the process for the father to try and become sole guardian?

Niamh. 22-07-2014 03:03 PM

I would imagine the Father would have to go to family court and apply for sole custody?

Nedusa 22-07-2014 04:09 PM

I would imagine legally if the mother doesn't want the child then the other "natural" parent is solely responsible for the child.

If that parent waives his rights THEN the child will be taken into care and eventually adopted.

The Father does NOT need to apply to any court to have custody of his own child..!!!





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Marsh. 22-07-2014 04:11 PM

If the mother leaves then the father is left holding the baby. I don't think she could insist on the baby going up for adoption.

Niamh. 22-07-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7084255)
I would imagine legally if the mother doesn't want the child then the other "natural" parent is solely responsible for the child.

If that parent waives his rights THEN the child will be taken into care and eventually adopted.

The Father does NOT need to apply to any court to have custody of his own child..!!!





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If the couple isn't married then he would have to apply to the court if the mother was contesting it. Atleast that's how it would work here anyway. It's not right imo but that's how it is, the laws need updating badly.

Niamh. 22-07-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7084260)
If the mother leaves then the father is left holding the baby. I don't think she could insist on the baby going up for adoption.

I'm assuming the truth means that the mother had the child after the couple broke up and has the baby in her custody? If the father already has custody then it wouldn't be an issue

Marsh. 22-07-2014 04:18 PM

Ah, of course, he said they'd split.

user104658 22-07-2014 04:36 PM

If he's on the birth certificate he'd automatically be "first choice" unless the mother had a good reason for saying he shouldn't be, e.g. homelessness, substance abuse, violent criminal, etc.

If he's NOT on the birth certificate the child would likely go into the system, at which point there could be a DNA test done, after which I'm assuming he would have custody rights (again, unless there is some sort of reason for this not to happen as above).

user104658 22-07-2014 04:39 PM

That's for adoption by strangers, by the way... if the adoption is going to be by an adult that's already been in the child's life for a long time (e.g. a grandparent, aunt/uncle) and they're offering a more stable home than the father can, or if the child knows them well but the father is "estranged", then the courts might well grant custody to the "known" family member in the best interests of the child. The father would still have access rights, though, and could potentially apply for custody in future if there's good reason.

Northern Monkey 22-07-2014 06:19 PM

If i was him and got custody i'd be applying for maintenance from the mother.

Cherie 22-07-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7084616)
If i was him and got custody i'd be applying for maintenance from the mother.

Thetruth is going to love you :laugh:

Kizzy 22-07-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7084050)
if a mother doesnt want to keep her new born baby and has split from the father and says she wants to put it up for adoption? but the dad wants to raise the baby, but the mother doesnt want him too because she feels a baby must have mother?

what is the process for the father to try and become sole guardian?

Asking for advice on a big brother forum is prob not the best, a site like this may be better..
http://www.separateddads.co.uk/your-...-children.html

Ninastar 22-07-2014 07:27 PM

it would all depend on whether the father could afford to look after the baby/whether he had been trouble with the police/whether he had the support etc

Vicky. 22-07-2014 07:33 PM

I would think unless there was a very good reason for it not to happen, that if the mother didnt want the child the father would get...first refusal for want of better words (I know that sounds awful). Also if I am not mistaken, both parents have to agree for the child to be put up for adoption in the first place?

the truth 22-07-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7084731)
Asking for advice on a big brother forum is prob not the best, a site like this may be better..
http://www.separateddads.co.uk/your-...-children.html

cheers, ive found this is big brother site highly beneficial on a multitude of topics

Northern Monkey 22-07-2014 08:52 PM

In a fair world the father should be the first choice in that situation.He is the next of kin.A father can look after a kid just as well as a mother if not better in some cases.I would think the father would be asked first to be honest.If not then the system is f'cked up.

Niamh. 22-07-2014 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7084329)
If he's on the birth certificate he'd automatically be "first choice" unless the mother had a good reason for saying he shouldn't be, e.g. homelessness, substance abuse, violent criminal, etc.

If he's NOT on the birth certificate the child would likely go into the system, at which point there could be a DNA test done, after which I'm assuming he would have custody rights (again, unless there is some sort of reason for this not to happen as above).

Over here, even if the fathers name is on the birth cert, the father is not the childs legal Guardian until the mother either consents or if she doesn't he'd have to take her to court (unless they were married and then the father is automatically legal guardian)

Kizzy 22-07-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7084961)
cheers, ive found this is big brother site highly beneficial on a multitude of topics

Me too and it's fine for general advice, but for specific advice on family law then maybe not though.


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