Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166654)

As it was Helen who has tried to welcome her into the group. On 2 occasions now we have seen Helen call a truce and Ashleigh accepts only to then bitch about it the next day.

I love this footage from last night they both seemed genuinely happy and it makes me want them in the final 2 but I still want Helen to pip her to the post. It would be a massive achievement for both of them to be there as they would have gone from hated (Ashleigh for the first 5 weeks) to the only girls ever to make it to the final 2.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166654)

As it was Helen who has tried to welcome her into the group. On 2 occasions now we have seen Helen call a truce and Ashleigh accepts only to then bitch about it the next day.

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7166668)

One woman again and rightly so. Aggression and bullying should never be rewarded.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166654)

As it was Helen who has tried to welcome her into the group. On 2 occasions now we have seen Helen call a truce and Ashleigh accepts only to then bitch about it the next day.

I love this footage from last night they both seemed genuinely happy and it makes me want them in the final 2 but I still want Helen to pip her to the post. It would be a massive achievement for both of them to be there as they would have gone from hated (Ashleigh for the first 5 weeks) to the only girls ever to make it to the final 2.

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7166665)

When did Helen try to welcome her into the group? Helen has on numerous occasions said she only tolerates Ashleigh because she's in the house. And Ashleigh is not simply talking about how Helen has spoke to her but to others as well.



You want a woman who has been given a free pass to the final, multiple warnings (for bullying and aggressive behaviour) that amount to little more than guidance tips on how to behave, all sorts of other advantages and pretty much a campaign for her to win during the week a vote to win opens, to win? Does a sense of fair play enter into this at any point?

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166686)

Short memory, Helen has said she wanted to be friends with Ashleigh a million! Even in last nights highlights she said she has tried to be friends with her but Ashleigh just makes things awkward. She apologised to her last night and she also apologised to her when Danielle left and they seemed to get along for a few days but Ashleigh started bitching about her again.

And in answer to your second post yes I want her in the final 2.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166686)

Short memory, Helen has said she wanted to be friends with Ashleigh a million! Even in last nights highlights she said she has tried to be friends with her but Ashleigh just makes things awkward.

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7166705)

This is a woman who hears what she wants to hear and sees what she wants to see and has treated people appallingly, saying some of the nastiest things in the most aggressive manner in 15 years of BB. You expect people to just fall into line or come under Helen's wing?



Yes, because of her behaviour. Which is obnoxious.



No, a woman who treats a man who has just walked in on his first night like something she has trodden in (as she did with Chris) and begins to refer to another woman who has just walked in as a "slug" and continues to do so for a week until there have been so many complaints the producers have to pull her in and give her warning is most definitely a bully. She takes the things people hold sacred such as their religious beliefs and tramples all over them. She gets aggressive and goes straight after people's insecurities. When called up on this, she balls her eyes out and says "Why is it always me, *someone else* is just as bad if not worst, sniffle sniffle sniffle"

Manipulative, nasty and a bully.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166654)

As it was Helen who has tried to welcome her into the group. On 2 occasions now we have seen Helen call a truce and Ashleigh accepts only to then bitch about it the next day.

I love this footage from last night they both seemed genuinely happy and it makes me want them in the final 2 but I still want Helen to pip her to the post. It would be a massive achievement for both of them to be there as they would have gone from hated (Ashleigh for the first 5 weeks) to the only girls ever to make it to the final 2.

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7166753)

Im no longer discussing this its like banging my head against a brick wall.

Chris has forgiven Helen and says he likes her on so many occasions. You forget all the times shes been there for him since when the little pussy was crying almost every other day.

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7166814)

Good for him. But that sort of behaviour is beyond the pale.



No one has said that they are. But Helen's behaviour has been on numerous occasions despicable in that house. And whilst it's one thing for those who have to live with her to forgive, for the audience to just forget about all of that and pretend she's a decent sort really is just depressing.



I haven't enjoyed her treating people like ****. No. And she doesn't deserve to finish above any of them. Though she probably will thanks to further manipulation and promotion. Something, again, people just don't seem to care about anymore.

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7166823)

But hasnt ashliegh treated people like ****?

Helen?
Ash?
Christopher?
Zoe?
Bianca?
Pav?
Steven?
Kim?

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7166823)

But hasnt ashliegh treated people like ****?

Helen?
Ash?
Christopher?
Zoe?
Bianca?
Pav?
Steven?
Kim?

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle (Post 7166831)

I agree she's treated Helen, Ash, Christopher (once) and Kim pretty poorly, but where did Steven, Biannca, Pav and Zoe come from? :shrug:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7166838)

She wasnt happy with the newbies entering so didnt talk to them for days and steven she hurt him to spite kim

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle (Post 7166843)

I thought she was one of the most animated when they entered, and I wouldn't say that not talking to them much is treating them like **** tbh. I still don't know when she hurt Steven

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7166852)

Telling steven that kim isnt good enough and her and chris both said they was happy about new people

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7166857)

I seriously doubt that Steven was hurt by that, he was probably delighted that she thought he was too good for Kim :hehe:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7166857)

I seriously doubt that Steven was hurt by that, he was probably delighted that she thought he was too good for Kim :hehe: