Ash and Matthew argued at the after-party over Helen
 

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/16/big-br...helen-4835269/

Inevitable

Matthew is so bitter

helen can look after herself, she doesnt need him to argue and be immature about it they all should forget about it and just have a good time

I take it you include Matthew in that comment?

Hope he clocked Ash

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

Well the person who made his experience a misery won :umm2:

I think Ash is a gentleman for letting Helen enjoy her win and putting that horrible cretin Matthew in his place.

He and Toya have made utter fools of themselves since they were booted out.

It didn't make his experience a misery though as he said in his reflection article that it was one of the best experiences of his life and he goes on and on about the argument he had with her. He calls it 'the most controversial moment of the series' and is so hung up on it as he always posts 'Always in the right', uses it when he calls into BOTS and has it in his bio...it's his ticket to still being relevant.

ash should just be a adult and ignore matthew and have a good time

He shouldnt have been such a judgemental prick then should he. If he is going to sit around judging others he was more than due some home truths himself.

Helen was far worse in that argument even most Helen stans see that

Ash is a complete moron. Helen treated certain people like utter ****, it's reasonable that some of them will dislike her. He acts like she's a poor, innocent little victim who's receiving criticism for no reason.

Also, he slagged people off enough, along with Saint Helen. Why is it automatically a terrible thing when they're on the receiving end?

Actually, Ash sat there and goaded Helen as she mocked Jale about "the slug's elephant ears", so his attitude towards Matthew and Jale for slagging them off is almost comical.

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

If he hadn't sat there slagging people off himself and being generally nastu for no reason, he might have a right to be offended by the idea of slagging someone off.

As it stands, he doesn't. He and Helen have dished out enough poison, they should be big enough to take some back.

He put himself in the situation and wound her up. His own fault.

The sooner Matthew disappears back into irrelevance the better, he never said anything of substance on the show, nor since he's been evicted, about time someone said something to him

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

Helen went OTT, you condone someone being called a pigeon chested twat, c unt etc

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments. :laugh2:

He said just as much back and has repeated himself since, at least Helen moved on. He is bitter and that is all this runs down to.

So you condone him repeatedly making fun of Helens apperance since he got booted out?

What facts have been missed?

Haven't read most of his twitter

It takes two to tango after all

Helen was out of order with Matthew in the argument in the house.

Matthew was however irrelevant, mostly dull and is vastly overrated. Helen completely ****s all over him in the housemate stakes.

Matthew shouldn't have made comments about Helen, he should just get over it and move on with his life.

Ash shouldn't have started an argument with him unnecessarily though however. Helen won, why does he need to care about Matthew's opinion?

That is all.

She was in the house so no, he has been slagging her off for weeks when she had no chance to reply until now but I am sure she is too busy celebrating to take too much notice of him being almost as bitter as the anti Helen movement at her win.

Yes a Fool he is

Good for Ash,proves what a good friend he is to her,Mathew is very bitter ,he needs to move on

jack pretty much summed it up

How bitter. It's a celebration party and he acts like a dick. Lost a lot of respect for him.

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

Really gone off Matthew since he was evicted. Honestly, he's ruined it for himself. He's tried to fool the public into thinking he's entertaining while on the BBBOTS panel by saying 'they're irrelevant' after every question.

Ash was the one saying he would confront him?

I don't think Matthew is bitter, he's just saying it "how it is", a trait all you Helen fans seem to love about her...

Too right! Very sour to be slagging someone off at a party, a time of fun. They aren't in the Big Brother house anymore and he needs to remember that.

Matthew was saying all of it at the final and on BOTS Ash was saying that he was going to confront him

No surprise here, Ash is Helen's lackey.

And Matthew is Toya's bitch. Toya is Matthew's fag hag.

Matthew is straight