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Scotland vote NO to independence!
Just been announced :)
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barely.
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There's going to be trouble... :laugh:
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Good :)
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Here for all the drama
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thank god!
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perched for the dramz
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Whatever you feel about the result, the things everyone should be most proud of is the amazing turnout and that this referendum was a victory for democracy that allowed people to have their say on such an important issue, with mostly passionate debate, not bombs and weapons, there arent many countries in the world where this would have happened.
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To get 45% when every national newspaper save one and one large and powerful goverment is against you is pretty amazing
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Fear is a very powerful motivator and with so many people afraid it's best it didn't happen. Maybe one day.
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Totals after the full 32 counts
No 2,001,926 Yes 1,617,989 |
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One thing that's good about the result, there isn't going to be months of upheaval and uncertainty, like a messy divorce.
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"Yay we still have all our chess pieces!" as anyone not inside the U.K. media bubble let's out a collective groan. |
Not sure how to feel about the result, tbh. If it was Finland in the same situation trying get independence from Russia or Sweden with the help of a vote like this, i would have voted "YES", without even considering the consequences. Thankfully there was a revolution and we got a chance to seize up the opportunity and got it from Russia/Soviet Union.
But i donīt think Scotland would have coped themselves long and would probably had to eventually ask help from EU and the rest of the World. Itīs still kind sad, in a way for people that have wanted independence from Britain for so long to get their hopes crushed completely. I do predict this was a one time vote and there will never be a referendum like this. Only way for Scotland to get independence now would be if Monarchy would end in Britain. Or another way too, but nobody wants that... |
I hope Cameron doesn't back down on his promise of more autonomy for Scotland then.
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Heard on BBC News this morning: "The most sensible comment of the Referendum Campaign according to Gavin Hewitt, TV reporter was by a man living in Shetland who when he asked him "Well whose oil is it? Is it Britains oil, is it Shetlands oil, is it Scotlands oil? He replied "No, its the oil companies oil!" |
I am really pleased that this was in the end a more decisive result.
A margin of double figures is decisive hopefully this puts this issue away for some considerable time. The Conservative,Labour and to a degree the Lib Dems must come up with an agreed list of further powers to be transferred to the Scots and they must also take into account input from the SNP as to those too. This keeps the UK parliament going and keeps the UK together too,that has to be realised and no nonsense of creating a 2 tier system of MPs elected to the UK parliament or any watering down of the basics of what was promised during this campaign to the Scots either. I also hope David Cameron has seen how dangerous it can be to hold referendums on divided issues,this could have gone either way and had it done so, I feel England would have likely paid the bigger price for the loss of Scotland. I commend both Alex Salmond and Gordon Brown for this result, Alex Slamond brought the result far closer than it seemed likely to be able to achieve,even just a few months ago. Gordon Brown I commend for his brilliant speech on Wednesday morning which I would credit him for as to stemming any more votes going to 'yes' and even pulling some back from 'yes' to 'no' too. Scotland has demonstrated how good democracy can be,the turnout was incredible and showed that you can energise people with the right message and by talking 'to' them rather than 'at' them bring about a determination and interest as to politics that may have seemed near impossible before. Also I have heard a great deal of sense,watching the debates from those who were 16 and 17 years old allowed to vote. In my view, a really great result and hopefully it does come about that there will be winners all round because of what the Scottish Nation has said to the rest of the UK yesterday. A lot more respect is owed to Scotland now and much less of just looking inward and trying to put things off to other days from those in power in the UK. |
A big round of applause for old Gordon returning from the grave to save the No campaign and crush Salmond's hopes and dreams
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...74_233x423.jpg |
:joker: :joker: Whoever thought facebook would produce such poignant satire?
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