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Redway 06-10-2014 01:13 PM

British pensioner jailed in Morocco for 'gay acts'
 
A British holidaymaker has been jailed in Morocco for "homosexual acts", according to his family.

Ray Cole, 70, from Deal in Kent was arrested last week and imprisoned for four months. Mr Cole's son said he had been sleeping on a concrete floor and sharing with "murderers, rapists and paedophiles."

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-1...-for-gay-acts/

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2014 01:18 PM

If he broke the law what is the story?

Marsh. 06-10-2014 01:18 PM

A 70 year old engaging in gay acts. :bored:

Liam- 06-10-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7310238)
If he broke the law what is the story?

This.

It's wrong and fundamentally immoral that it's against the law, but it's still the countries law, if he broke it, then, they have the right to put him in prison, no matter how wrong that is.

Redway 06-10-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7310238)
If he broke the law what is the story?

Well, that's the thing and of course Morocco is entitled to sentence him no matter how wrong that is.

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 01:24 PM

If being homosexual is against the laws, then that country is pretty much ****ed up. Specially if that person has to sleep with real criminals in jail.

Liam- 06-10-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 7310251)
If being homosexual is against the laws, then that country is pretty much ****ed up. Specially if that person has to sleep with real criminals in jail.

Well we know that, most countries these days know that's ****ed up, but to them, it's acceptable to see homosexual acts as being illegal, that's the normal thought process for them obviously.

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7310259)
Well we know that, most countries these days know that's ****ed up, but to them, it's acceptable to see homosexual acts as being illegal, that's the normal thought process for them obviously.

It is understandable people are unfamiliar with "gay thing" and i know you cant expect people to understand quickly (i live in an islamic country) but you cant put people in jail with people who rapes other people, kills and steals just because they are diffrent.

Liam- 06-10-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 7310265)
It is understandable people are unfamiliar with "gay thing" and i know you cant expect people to understand quickly (i live in an islamic country) but you cant put people in jail with people who rapes other people, kills and steals just because they are diffrent.

In their eyes you can, they see it as being just as bad as those crimes, it's disgusting that they do, but that's what they believe and stand by, It's down to them if they want to change and see things differently, no-one can force them too.

joeysteele 06-10-2014 01:43 PM

Seems a harsh sentence to me but some Countries are way behind the civilised World as to the rights of Gay people,they are Countries best avoided in my opinion and places certainly to take great care in when in them too.

If it is against their laws then they will obviously act against the individual/s,to me however their laws are wrong but that's another story.

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7310269)
In their eyes you can, they see it as being just as bad as those crimes, it's disgusting that they do, but that's what they believe and stand by, It's down to them if they want to change and see things differently, no-one can force them too.

People have rights to act however they want but they dont have a right to effect other peoples life like that.

arista 06-10-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 7310235)
A British holidaymaker has been jailed in Morocco for "homosexual acts", according to his family.

Ray Cole, 70, from Deal in Kent was arrested last week and imprisoned for four months. Mr Cole's son said he had been sleeping on a concrete floor and sharing with "murderers, rapists and paedophiles."

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-1...-for-gay-acts/


Yes it was on his mobile phone the police found stuff.

But he knew the Laws of that nation.

Being Gay is Illegal in Loads of Countrys.



He rolled his dice
and got bad numbers

Redway 06-10-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 7310275)
People have rights to act however they want but they dont have a right to effect other peoples life like that.

Morocco is clearly a backwards country but it's not like being here where gay rights are recognised. I'm sure he knew fully well what he was getting himself in for so he only has himself to blame.

arista 06-10-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7310271)
Seems a harsh sentence to me but some Countries are way behind the civilised World as to the rights of Gay people,they are Countries best avoided in my opinion and places certainly to take great care in when in them too.

If it is against their laws then they will obviously act against the individual/s,to me however their laws are wrong but that's another story.


Bollocks it is


Gays are Illegal in loads of Nations



You a Student
need to travel more

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2014 01:51 PM

I thought that was where all the gays in the 60s and 70s went to get laid like Joe Orton etc?

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 7310281)
Morocco is clearly a backwards country but it's not like being here where gay rights are recognised. I'm sure he knew fully well what he was getting himself in for so he only has himself to blame.

thats sadly true too

Liam- 06-10-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 7310275)
People have rights to act however they want but they dont have a right to effect other peoples life like that.

In that country, homosexual acts are against the law, so if someone doesn't want to be arrested, don't go there and commit homosexual acts, no matter what you think of the laws and how wrong they are, if you're going to another country, you have to abide by their rules, otherwise you're going to pay the price, unfortunately there are still countries that have the right to prosecute people for being gay and that is their prerogative, we can sit here and say how awful it is until we're all blue in the face and the cows come marching home, but in their country that's the law and they can do what they want with it and do what they want to the people who break it.

Redway 06-10-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7310279)
Being Gay is Illegal in Loads of Countrys.

No shit.

Kizzy 06-10-2014 02:02 PM

It's funny how people are so worried about human rights in Morocco but not here, are we not thinking about doing away with the human rights act? What's happening in Morocco could very easily happen here if it were.
I feel for the guy but if that's the law as it stands atm then he has to accept the consequences, there are hundreds of other places he could have gone and been free to express his sexuality.

joeysteele 06-10-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7310282)
Bollocks it is


Gays are Illegal in loads of Nations



You a Student
need to travel more

arista, to me it is a harsh sentence, to me it is ridiculous any Nation still has these daft laws as to homosexuality, people cannot help being gay,it shouldn't be a criminal act anywhere in my view.

I have travelled plenty already in my life up to now being 22 and I am,by the way,no longer a student arista, I graduated over a year ago actually.

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7310295)
This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

.

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7310293)
It's funny how people are so worried about human rights in Morocco but not here, are we not thinking about doing away with the human rights act? What's happening in Morocco could very easily happen here if it were.
I feel for the guy but if that's the law as it stands atm then he has to accept the consequences, there are hundreds of other places he could have gone and been free to express his sexuality.

Yes, he could have applied for a irregular flat share

Kizzy 06-10-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7310295)
arista, to me it is a harsh sentence, to me it is ridiculous any Nation still has these daft laws as to homosexuality, people cannot help being gay,it shouldn't be a criminal act anywhere in my view.

I have travelled plenty already in my life up to now being 22 and I am,by the way,no longer a student arista, I graduated over a year ago actually.

This clearly was against their laws so some 'dealing' with that in such a Country would be necessary,however to imprison someone of 70, is to me, way over the top.
Unless his interest was towards minors.

I was going to mention this but there's no question of it as yet, it will be interesting to see why he traveled to this locale especially.

Niamh. 06-10-2014 02:09 PM

what did he actually do?

VanessaFeltz. 06-10-2014 02:10 PM

And true why would you go there? If i had a chance to travel that wouldnt be an ignorant place thats for sure.


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