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arista 15-10-2014 06:52 AM

Apple and Facebook pay women staff to freeze their eggs then stay working
 
This keeps Production Up.


[Apple and Facebook pay women staff to freeze
their eggs because bosses want to keep them working longer
Silicon Valley giants willing to pay £12,500 a time to put eggs on ice
According to NBC, Facebook has already started and Apple will in 2015
One egg-freezing advocate said the move was 'investing in women'
But one academic warned employees may see babies as 'incompatible']


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GC5QeT7e

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http://news.sky.com/story/1353314/ap...eze-staff-eggs


Sign Of The Times

rubymoo 15-10-2014 07:24 AM

I honestly don't know how i feel about this:huh:

arista 15-10-2014 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7324609)
I honestly don't know how i feel about this:huh:


View it like how China
does things.
Of course in China
you can only have one child.


If they loose all these hard working special projects women
so they have a baby
the company gets left behind.


Its a Race To The Top


On Lorraine ITV1HD
The Mirror reporter called it "Sinister"
just now

rubymoo 15-10-2014 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7324612)
View it like how China
does things.
Of course in China
you can only have one child.


If they loose all these hard working special projects women
so they have a baby
the company gets left behind.


Its a Race To The Top

I know i sound naive.......but that's really quite sad, i know more and more women are putting their careers first, but these same women are also struggling conceiving because they've left it too late, just because eggs are frozen doesn't mean they are going to be viable, and this comes from my experience, i under went fertility treatment and they retrieved 11 eggs, however only 2 became fertilized, they implanted the 2 and lucky for me they took, but i know people who have had countless treatments and still no baby.

Maybe the companies should offer better pay so the women can afford childcare if they want to return to work:shrug:

arista 15-10-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7324614)
I know i sound naive.......but that's really quite sad, i know more and more women are putting their careers first, but these same women are also struggling conceiving because they've left it too late, just because eggs are frozen doesn't mean they are going to be viable, and this comes from my experience, i under went fertility treatment and they retrieved 11 eggs, however only 2 became fertilized, they implanted the 2 and lucky for me they took, but i know people who have had countless treatments and still no baby.

Maybe the companies should offer better pay so the women can afford childcare if they want to return to work:shrug:


Yes its sad for them.

its is better when younger.

AnnieK 15-10-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7324614)
I know i sound naive.......but that's really quite sad, i know more and more women are putting their careers first, but these same women are also struggling conceiving because they've left it too late, just because eggs are frozen doesn't mean they are going to be viable, and this comes from my experience, i under went fertility treatment and they retrieved 11 eggs, however only 2 became fertilized, they implanted the 2 and lucky for me they took, but i know people who have had countless treatments and still no baby.

Maybe the companies should offer better pay so the women can afford childcare if they want to return to work:shrug:

I agree ruby.....Ivf didn't work for me and the frozen embryos didn't survive the thaw process so none of the cycles I went through were successful.....it's asking people to gamble their fertility IMO. I wouldn't recommend it

rubymoo 15-10-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7324620)
I agree ruby.....I've didn't work for me and the frozen embryos didn't survive the thaw process so none of the cycles I went through were successful.....it's asking people to gamble their fertility IMO. I wouldn't recommend it

:hug:

Niamh. 15-10-2014 10:53 AM

I heard about this, this morning, it sounds very much like a weird science fiction movie. It seems a bit messed up really

arista 15-10-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7324675)
I heard about this, this morning, it sounds very much like a weird science fiction movie. It seems a bit messed up really


Its important for Top Leaders
to bring this in
to stay at the Top Level in the World

Niamh. 15-10-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7324677)
Its important for Top Leaders
to bring this in
to stay at the Top Level in the World

It shouldn't become common place for parents to start having kids at retirement age though imo. It really isn't fair on the children they bring into the world

arista 15-10-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7324678)
It shouldn't become common place for parents to start having kids at retirement age though imo. It really isn't fair on the children they bring into the world


Do not worry
this is California


So its not common place yet

Nedusa 15-10-2014 11:25 AM

Disgusting idea.



.

Livia 15-10-2014 11:33 AM

No one's forcing these women to take part in this, presumably; no one's being coerced. Some women might want to work and keep their options open to have children later. I know this isn't going to be a popular comment, but I would much rather work with women who have no kids. In the past when I've worked with women who have a family their families quite rightly come first. Consequently those of us who don't have kids end up covering for them when their kids are sick, when their kids have sports day... all kinds of issues. No one's making Microsoft and Apple do this and if women take advantage of it, that's their choice.

Niamh. 15-10-2014 11:35 AM

Thankfully in this day and age men in the work force are now sharing the burden with their partners of looking after their kids and taking time off when kids are sick etc etc

Crimson Dynamo 15-10-2014 11:36 AM

We had our first air frost the other night and my eggs were freezing, I can tell you.

AnnieK 15-10-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7324688)
Thankfully in this day and age men in the work force are now sharing the burden with their partners of looking after their kids and taking time off when kids are sick etc etc

Not only that.....I assume people without children take holidays too and those with children have to cover their work then....they also take sick days....etc etc...some of the worst "sickie chuckers" in my experience don't do it due to kids....

But on the other handi agree with Livia, in if it's not a prerequisite of getting a position with these companies I guess it's each to their own....

Livia 15-10-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7324693)
Not only that.....I assume people without children take holidays too and those with children have to cover their work then....they also take sick days....etc etc...some of the worst "sickie chuckers" in my experience don't do it due to kids....

But on the other handi agree with Livia, in if it's not a prerequisite of getting a position with these companies I guess it's each to their own....

I'm not having a pop at all women with kids (Annie and Niamh)... it's just that in my own personal experience it's happened that I've ended up covering for a couple of women who "want it all". It's a generalisation I know... but I've worked no end of evenings and weekends where the women with kids have to get home, but still think they should be in with a shot when promotions and raises roll round.

I'm not sure the egg freezing thing would be for me, but it sounds like an option some women would probably want to consider.

Niamh. 15-10-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7324702)
I'm not having a pop at all women with kids (Annie and Niamh)... it's just that in my own personal experience it's happened that I've ended up covering for a couple of women who "want it all". It's a generalisation I know... but I've worked no end of evenings and weekends where the women with kids have to get home, but still think they should be in with a shot when promotions and raises roll round.

I'm not sure the egg freezing thing would be for me, but it sounds like an option some women would probably want to consider.

:fist:

Yeah I mean fair enough if women want to do that, it just sounds a bit science fictionish to me when you hear businesses are offering to pay for it for their employees :laugh: Also, my concerns about it becoming common place for old-elderly people trying to raise kids

user104658 15-10-2014 12:34 PM

Meh. All sounds a bit selfish, to me. It's an either-or situation, you should choose the high-flying career OR to settle down to cosy family life. The two are inherently incompatible. For both women AND men. Men, with children, who spend their lives in high-flying careers, working longer-than-normal hours, on constant business trips, and then still sat working at home / always available over the phone... are being **** dads when it comes to small children. Many might find that harsh but it's something I truly believe.

If you really want to do both (again, women OR men), have kids YOUNG and start your career path when they're a little bit older.

arista 15-10-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7324745)
Meh. All sounds a bit selfish, to me. It's an either-or situation, you should choose the high-flying career OR to settle down to cosy family life. The two are inherently incompatible. For both women AND men. Men, with children, who spend their lives in high-flying careers, working longer-than-normal hours, on constant business trips, and then still sat working at home / always available over the phone... are being **** dads when it comes to small children. Many might find that harsh but it's something I truly believe.

If you really want to do both (again, women OR men), have kids YOUNG and start your career path when they're a little bit older.


Yes on FoxNewsHD on a new
all woman show (4 women , 1 guest man)
Stacey Dash (actress) has had 4 husbands
she can not hold a man down , sadly.
She Trys to have it all
without a man
thats America.
She even breaks down on Live TV

Livia 15-10-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7324938)
Yes on FoxNewsHD on a new
all woman show (4 women , 1 guest man)
Stacey Dash (actress) has had 4 husbands
she can not hold a man down , sadly.
She Trys to have it all
without a man
thats America.
She even breaks down on Live TV

I could teach her how to restrain one.

Ninastar 15-10-2014 03:27 PM

omg i bet all the lesbians are having a party. i'd make £12,500 every month if i could

Cherie 15-10-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7324702)
I'm not having a pop at all women with kids (Annie and Niamh)... it's just that in my own personal experience it's happened that I've ended up covering for a couple of women who "want it all". It's a generalisation I know... but I've worked no end of evenings and weekends where the women with kids have to get home, but still think they should be in with a shot when promotions and raises roll round.

I'm not sure the egg freezing thing would be for me, but it sounds like an option some women would probably want to consider.

Who forced you to work these extra hours? and I assume you got paid overtime for them :whistle:

Kizzy 15-10-2014 11:55 PM

Ok so when are these women meant to have children, retirement age?

arista 16-10-2014 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7325777)
Ok so when are these women meant to have children, retirement age?


If they sign the Mega Cobtract


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