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Halal slaughter: Large increase reported in number of animals not being stunned

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There has been a large increase in the proportion of animals killed through religious slaughter, a survey for the Food Standards Agency has found.

The number of cattle killed according to the principles of Islamic halal slaughter, in which animals are killed without first being stunned, rose by nearly a third between 2011 and 2013, while the number of sheep not being stunned increased by half.

The only progress on animal welfare was with halal-slaughtered poultry, where slightly more (1.7 per cent) were stunned than previously.

The number of animals killed without being first stunned for Jewish kosher slaughter decreased across the board in the same period, however.

The overwhelming majority of animals killed using halal methods are stunned before killing; around 80 per cent, according to the British Veterinary Association.

This proportion appears to be falling, however. Awal Fuseini, certification manager of the Halal Food Authority, which stuns its animals, told The Times newspaper that the increase was due to “stronger campaigning” by some Muslim groups who believed stunning killed animals.

He said a trial to show that animals recovered would help convince campaigners that stunning was in accordance with Islamic law.

“If we are given the backing to do the trial then we can prove to people that whatever information they have that stunning kills animals is not true,” he told the newspaper.

One in 50 cattle killed in Britain is not stunned; roughly one in 30 chickens suffer the same fate. The figure rises to one in seven for sheep and goats.

The figures were obtained by visits from FSA officials to a representative sample of 232 slaughterhouses and was conducted in September 2013.

Working with the RSPCA, the British Veterinary Association has gathered 100,000 signatures on a petition calling for the end of the practice.

“The success of the e-petition reaching 100,000 signatures two months before the deadline shows the strength of public opinion and support for the aims of our campaign,” BVA president John Blackwell said. “Slaughter without stunning unnecessarily compromises animal welfare at the time of death and as such we call for an end to its practice.”

David Bowles, RSPCA Head of Public Affairs said there should be no exemption for religious groups.

“There is growing public concern about the welfare of farm animals and people believe animals should be treated as humanely as possible throughout their lives, including at the time of slaughter,” he argued.

“Animal welfare science and practical experience indicate that cutting animals’ throats while they are fully conscious can cause significant pain and distress. There should be no exemption under the law to allow non-stun slaughter and we urge politicians to take action on this important issue.”

Some religious groups reacted angrily. Shimon Cohen, the director of Shechita UK, a Jewish organisation which campaigns on matters relating to the protection of the provision of kosher meat, said:

“The BVA has been obsessed with removing the right of religious communities to carry out religious slaughter, without conclusive evidence that it is less humane than conventional, industrialised mechanical slaughter. That they continue to campaign on this issue, despite the Government’s repeated assurances that it will not be swayed, is a dereliction of their responsibility to focus on far more severe welfare issues such as mis-stunning and animal cruelty.”

A spokesperson for the Department for the Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) said: “The government has no intention of banning religious slaughter. The government would prefer animals to be stunned before slaughter, but we respect the rights of Jewish and Muslim communities to eat meat in accordance with their beliefs.”

Link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10012559.html

Halal and Kosher Meat >>>

Especially Kosher tbh.

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Originally Posted by Rose McGowan (Post 7547784)

barbaric :bored:

But thats their way

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 7547819)

But thats their way

Doesn't make it any less barbaric

If you were really concerned then you'd be vegetarian, that is the truth. Halal or not it is still barbaric in ways and putting all the blame on halal is closet islamophobia.

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7547895)

If you were really concerned then you'd be vegetarian, that is the truth. Halal or not it is still barbaric in ways and putting all the blame on halal is closet islamophobia.

Oh Josh, please get out of Islams arse. They make it as painful as possible for the animal, they are tied up by their legs/feet which breaks their legs first, then their throat is slit. It's a lot more traumatic than when the animal is stunned first.

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7547944)

I'm defending a religion constantly attacked by the media and society at every opportunity, islamaphobia is rampant. Also you missed my point which is that people don't care about the animals just muslim bashing again

:facepalm:

2000 years ago you could kill and animal with your hands. but now we have moved on a bit and there is a better way

but no, lets just stick with the barbaric old way whilst we drive to the shops in our BMW X5s, texting on our iphones

just ridiculous

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7547895)

If you were really concerned then you'd be vegetarian, that is the truth. Halal or not it is still barbaric in ways and putting all the blame on halal is closet islamophobia.

This!
Bye at people pretending to care for animals when they are happy to munch on a Big Mac :laugh:
But I guess knowing it's been stunned makes them feel better about themselves.

I am vegetarian and any kind of slaughter is horrible - however Halal is especially cruel and vile and I refuse to be persuaded otherwise. However, if people not of this religion truly believe that all slaughterhouses are lovely pleasurable places for animals to pass away peacefully, then they are seriously deluded. Behind closed doors and all that,

vile, absolutely vile

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 7548299)

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Well done you.

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7547895)

If you were really concerned then you'd be vegetarian, that is the truth. Halal or not it is still barbaric in ways and putting all the blame on halal is closet islamophobia.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7547944)

:clap1:

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7547944)

Oh Josh, please get out of Islams arse. They make it as painful as possible for the animal, they are tied up by their legs/feet which breaks their legs first, then their throat is slit. It's a lot more traumatic than when the animal is stunned first.

Lol this is a lie.

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 7548391)

Lol this is a lie.

Prove it

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 7548299)

Well said! I suggest people read up on 'stunning' to decide how ethical it is.

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7548422)

Prove it

Video showing the process of halal killing.

Youtube video

If this isn't enough proof then you can post proof of your own :hehe:

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 7548391)

Lol this is a lie.

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Killing the animal is "barbaric" either way. Lol at thinking Stunnig and killing it is "Oh Ok". I'm no vegetarian and I eat meat and unless you are a vegetarian then you aren't in any place to deem how ethical killing animals for meat is really.

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 7548472)

Video showing the process of halal killing.

Youtube video

If this isn't enough proof then you can post proof of your own :hehe:

I wont be watching any videos on halal killings.

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7548434)

Well said! I suggest people read up on 'stunning' to decide how ethical it is.

:cheer2::clap1::clap1::clap1:

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 7548492)

Vegetarians are just hypocrites. They still eat milk, eggs, etc. which are products of animals, animals most likely kept in cages.
The only people i have respect for are vegans.

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7548516)

Vegetarians are just hypocrites. They still eat milk, eggs, etc. which are products of animals, animals most likely kept in cages.
The only people i have respect for are vegans.

No hun, cows live on fields and are milked via painless machinery, and that's what free range eggs are for.

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 7548528)

No hun, cows live on fields and are milked via painless machinery, and that's what free range eggs are for.

How do you know it's painless?

My brother went to a milking farm for a school trip and he came home quite upset because of how the animals were treated. There were lots of them in tiny pens and a lot of their water bowls were empty.

I still stand by what i say, the only people i have respect for are vegans, i wish i had it in me to become one.