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zakman440 31-01-2015 01:50 PM
Helen was warned over her Jale treatment, so why hasn't Hopkins re Perez?
 
So, Helen was warned in Power Trip over her attempts to ostracise Jale from the rest of the house in the summer, after the following:

Quote:
Helen shocked audiences when she branded Jale an “attention-seeking b**tard”, having already called her “a slug” and nicknamed her “Slugworth” in a conversation behind her back the previous night.
(Amoungst various other things...)

with Big Brother saying the following to her in the DR:

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Although she wasn’t issued with an official warning for her behaviour, show bosses did warn Helen: “Big Brother thinks your behaviour is unacceptable and Big Brother does not tolerate unacceptable behaviour. If this type of behaviour occurs again then Big Brother may have to issue you with a formal warning or take further serious action.

“Name-calling, persistent ridiculing and behaviour that results in an individual becoming ostracised from the group are all types of behaviour that can be perceived as bullying.”
Now, whilst I know that Jale had not said anything to Helen or any other housemates to cause this, at the end of the day Helen was still warned for trying to ostracise Jale from the group. Katie Hopkins has been doing a very similar thing with Perez (yes, Perez has said and done some things to annoy her and others which I am not trying to justify), but her attempts to ostracise and ridicule Perez have gone completely unnoticed by Big Brother. So why has she been able to escape an informal warning when Helen didn't?

Drew. 31-01-2015 01:52 PM
BB are never consistent. Handing out warnings for things then another series that same thing then becomes acceptable.. they probably find this entertaining so its therefore acceptable. Tossers.

LukeB 31-01-2015 01:56 PM
Because KH has done nothing wrong to be warned. Both of them are bad as each other tbh, Perez is also at fault he is no victim either is Katie. He should have had a warning for making Alexander walk. KH is giving Perez a taste of his own medicine. It's his own fault for being a dick. Can't expect KH to like him when he is being vile.

MrWong 31-01-2015 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zakman440 (Post 7552032)
So, Helen was warned in Power Trip over her attempts to ostracise Jale from the rest of the house in the summer, after the following:


(Amoungst various other things...)

with Big Brother saying the following to her in the DR:



Now, whilst I know that Jale had not said anything to Helen or any other housemates to cause this, at the end of the day Helen was still warned for trying to ostracise Jale from the group. Katie Hopkins has been doing a very similar thing with Perez (yes, Perez has said and done some things to annoy her and others which I am not trying to justify), but her attempts to ostracise and ridicule Perez have gone completely unnoticed by Big Brother. So why has she been able to escape an informal warning when Helen didn't?
Perez has been trolling the housemates from the start. Completely ignoring him is justified.

Jale didn't do anything to anyone.

Toy Soldier 31-01-2015 02:00 PM
Oh come on, this is a bit of a stretch. Jale was singled out for next to nothing and a campaign was carried on against her despite her refusing to respond to it. Helen decided she didn't like Jale, and that was that.

You can't possibly suggest that Perez vs Katie isn't a complete back-and-forth? They both do it to each other. They're both playing it as a game. And they both know that each other see it as a game. I think they'll both come out of it smiling and having enjoyed the experience, and I would not be surprised at all if, when they happen to cross paths at some award show or party in the future, they get along fine and have a chat / laugh about the whole thing. They are very, very similar.

Drew. 31-01-2015 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7552044)
Because KH has done nothing wrong to be warned. Both of them are bad as each other tbh, Perez is also at fault he is no victim either is Katie. He should have a warning for making Alexander walk KH is giving Perez a taste of his own medicine. It's his own fault for being a dick. Can't expect KH to like him when he is being vile.
For what? coughing in the same room as him? sitting opposite him with a grin on his face?

Hopkins giving him a taste of his own medicine lol. Hopkins has insulting him, followed him around for weeks and verbally abused him. Please don't compare her actions to his.

Vicky. 31-01-2015 02:01 PM
Perez has kinda brought it on himself tbh...he was horrific at the start :laugh: Jale never did anything wrong.

LukeB 31-01-2015 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7552051)
Perez has been trolling the housemates from the start. Completely ignoring him is justified.

Jale didn't do anything to anyone.
:clap1:

Jale was a victim and did nothing wrong.

but Perez is no victim at all because all he does is troll can't expect HM to love what he does:laugh:

LukeB 31-01-2015 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 7552055)
For what? coughing in the same room as him? sitting opposite him with a grin on his face?

Hopkins giving him a taste of his own medicine lol. Hopkins has insulting him, followed him around for weeks and verbally abused him. Please don't compare her actions to his.

Yeah he done that on purpose and that argument they had.
He starts her off.
and it was vile when he said he would kill himself if she was his mum.

Perez brought it on himself. KH is not doing it for no reason.

KH trolled him back and he couldn't take it.

Jules2 31-01-2015 02:04 PM
As no one is ostracizing him why a warning. If he wants to be in with the others let him join them. He isnt a baby, he had Nadia and Alicia to enable him, now he will have KP but if that is the way he wants sit so be it. Why always blame KH she has only ever said to him what others are thinking behind his back. She has given him a taste of his own medicine re Alex. As I said the others thought it but wouldnt do anything about it for fear of coming across as negative and nasty people. Carry on Katie is what I say give him as good as he gives out. He is gradually including others in his warped mind.

Drew. 31-01-2015 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7552067)
Yeah he done that on purpose and that argument they had.
He starts her off.
and it was vile when he said he would kill himself if she was his mum.

Perez brought it on himself. KH is not doing it for no reason.

KH trolled him back and he couldn't take it.
You genuinely think Hopkins isn't doing this for no reason? Whats her reasons for snapping out at half of the house during her time in there? Patsy is a great example.. She was minding her own business and Hopkins wouldn't leave her alone until she answered one of her questions and she created an argument from it.. not to mention how much she enjoyed it. Theres a huge difference between what she does and trolling.

Samm 31-01-2015 02:16 PM
Because Perez has said something back to, while Jale didn't

LukeB 31-01-2015 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 7552098)
You genuinely think Hopkins isn't doing this for no reason? Whats her reasons for snapping out at half of the house during her time in there? Patsy is a great example.. She was minding her own business and Hopkins wouldn't leave her alone until she answered one of her questions and she created an argument from it.. not to mention how much she enjoyed it. Theres a huge difference between what she does and trolling.
That's Katie being Katie. The argument wasn't that bad tbh it wasn't even a argument. KH is a awful person but a good housemate imo. But her feud with Perez is not random, he starts her off gets Nadia to sort it and plays the victim card. KH never plays victim because neither of them are. Both are bad as each other. but one acts like a baby and goes too far sometimes.

Liam- 31-01-2015 02:27 PM
The difference being, Jale didn't do anything to deserve being treated the way she was treated, she was genuinely picked on and that was what made it uncomfortable to watch, this coming from an eventual Helen fan.

Perez deserves everything he gets, he's made his disgusting bed, now he can lay in it and wallow in his own self pity.

Drew. 31-01-2015 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7552118)
That's Katie being Katie. The argument wasn't that bad tbh it wasn't even a argument. KH is a awful person but a good housemate imo. But her feud with Perez is not random, he starts her off gets Nadia to sort it and plays the victim card. KH never plays victim because neither of them are. Both are bad was each other. but one acts like a baby and goes too far sometimes.
"Thats Katie being Katie" you're right, being insulting and abusive is just her being her usual self, it's acceptable now. Well at least we can agree shes an awful person. I'm not surprised she doesn't play victim, i don't think Perez has over stepped the mark for her to feel insulted in a way she should. Although saying that, whenever another housemate has spoken up and put her in her place she loses her voice and sulks. You've gotta be deluded to ignore the fact she followed him for a week solid shouting at him and being vile towards him without him saying a word or reacting at all.

ebandit 31-01-2015 02:36 PM
that's entertainment
 
i can accept others may find pez entertaining.........................but

hard done by?............that's a stretch too far

Mark L

LukeB 31-01-2015 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 7552134)
"Thats Katie being Katie" you're right, being insulting and abusive is just her being her usual self, it's acceptable now. Well at least we can agree shes an awful person. I'm not surprised she doesn't play victim, i don't think Perez has over stepped the mark for her to feel insulted in a way she should. Although saying that, whenever another housemate has spoken up and put her in her place she loses her voice and sulks. You've gotta be deluded to ignore the fact she followed him for a week solid shouting at him and being vile towards him without him saying a word or reacting at all.
The mother comment? He should not have said that but that's Perez he is famous for being nasty towards other celebrities. Both are awful people. They're the same people so of course they're going to clash :laugh: But imo Perez goes too far but so does KH but not as much. I respect that you like him because that's your opinion though as we all are entitled to one.

Jason. 31-01-2015 02:42 PM
Because nobody complained much about Katie Hopkins to Ofcom.

BB only gave Helen and Pauline warnings because the complaints it received on OFCOM, in regards to the treatment of Jale.

Haza 31-01-2015 02:43 PM
It's pretty simple it's because Katie is not bullying Perez.

VanessaFeltz. 31-01-2015 02:52 PM
Because Perez does vile things as well, he just said he was going to rape Calum (I lolled at that actually that was funny because he is not strong enough to attack Calum) but Jale never done that, the biggest argument she was in was the argument with Chris which wasnt a big thing anyways.

jennyjuniper 31-01-2015 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zakman440 (Post 7552032)
So, Helen was warned in Power Trip over her attempts to ostracise Jale from the rest of the house in the summer, after the following:


(Amoungst various other things...)

with Big Brother saying the following to her in the DR:



Now, whilst I know that Jale had not said anything to Helen or any other housemates to cause this, at the end of the day Helen was still warned for trying to ostracise Jale from the group. Katie Hopkins has been doing a very similar thing with Perez (yes, Perez has said and done some things to annoy her and others which I am not trying to justify), but her attempts to ostracise and ridicule Perez have gone completely unnoticed by Big Brother. So why has she been able to escape an informal warning when Helen didn't?
Probably because they fear Katy H could change her mind and report Perez to the cops for assault.

Miranda123 31-01-2015 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zakman440 (Post 7552032)
So, Helen was warned in Power Trip over her attempts to ostracise Jale from the rest of the house in the summer, after the following:


(Amoungst various other things...)

with Big Brother saying the following to her in the DR:



Now, whilst I know that Jale had not said anything to Helen or any other housemates to cause this, at the end of the day Helen was still warned for trying to ostracise Jale from the group. Katie Hopkins has been doing a very similar thing with Perez (yes, Perez has said and done some things to annoy her and others which I am not trying to justify), but her attempts to ostracise and ridicule Perez have gone completely unnoticed by Big Brother. So why has she been able to escape an informal warning when Helen didn't?
Katie H has no reason to try to ostracise the Perv, cause none of the other HM's want anything to do with him anyway??

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the truth 31-01-2015 05:11 PM
shes threatened him umpteen times, shes threatened to smash stuff over his head, shes threatened to poison his drinks, shes demanded EEVRYONE ostracise him ignore him isolate him totally bully him...shes smashed up property , shes called him a bad father, shes sworn at him endlessly name called him encouraged everyone tp argue with and abuse him........its similar to the group bullying of gary busey, its also racist and anti american


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