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the truth 01-02-2015 06:40 AM

bully hopkins has lost every argument
 
shes so dumb and ignorant...so fake so evil, so insincere so full of hate and bigotry ...she spews out her endless toxic half baked nonsense opinions....yet never does her homework and ends up getting battered in every argument........Jordan tore her a new anus yesterday in a polite way.....alicia destroyed bully Hopkins every time they clashed, Alicia knew a lot on her subjects, bully knew nothing other than a moronic attention seeking insult
she cant claim any moral high ground and her taunting of perez body fat , ginger babies, her celebrating of child slave labour are all disgusting examples to her children
when perez hasn't waggled his tongue hes owned bully Hopkins every time, simply by being a a nicer warmer more sincere more forgiving person..
even patsy made far more sense with her polite requests to give pacifism a chance
now even cheggers is tearing her to shreds....hes told the moronic twat he doesn't have to be abusive to be REAL...he is being real and real can be nice...he told her walking in half way through a discussion without knowing the facts then throwing out opinions and arguments is stupid and all done to promote her own disgusting brand of hateful bigotry.....its boring says cheggers and the great man is spot on , that's exactly what it is
shes stupider than Alicia and the most ignorant desperado in there

cfromhx02 01-02-2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7554881)
shes so dumb and ignorant...so fake so evil, so insincere so full of hate and bigotry ...she spews out her endless toxic half baked nonsense opinions....yet never does her homework and ends up getting battered in every argument........Jordan tore her a new anus yesterday in a polite way.....alicia destroyed bully Hopkins every time they clashed, Alicia knew a lot on her subjects, bully knew nothing other than a moronic attention seeking insult
she cant claim any moral high ground and her taunting of perez body fat , ginger babies, her celebrating of child slave labour are all disgusting examples to her children
when perez hasn't waggled his tongue hes owned bully Hopkins every time, simply by being a a nicer warmer more sincere more forgiving person..
even patsy made far more sense with her polite requests to give pacifism a chance
now even cheggers is tearing her to shreds....hes told the moronic twat he doesn't have to be abusive to be REAL...he is being real and real can be nice...he told her walking in half way through a discussion without knowing the facts then throwing out opinions and arguments is stupid and all done to promote her own disgusting brand of hateful bigotry.....its boring says cheggers and the great man is spot on , that's exactly what it is
shes stupider than Alicia and the most ignorant desperado in there

That is ALL completely correct

She does nothing but spread hate & a bad atmosphere

She should also have been prosecuted for causing racial hatred and for calling for genocide,these are both serious criminal convictions,and for good reason.

& it is not important as to whether she goes too far or not whether it's an act or not.

because she just bounces around and looks joyful when she spreads hate,so that means she genuinely is as nasty as she appears,

and what "nice " person would work and take lots of money for spreading so much violence and potential threat to you

from increased terrorism throughout the world

Lstan 01-02-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7554881)
shes so dumb and ignorant...so fake so evil, so insincere so full of hate and bigotry ...she spews out her endless toxic half baked nonsense opinions....yet never does her homework and ends up getting battered in every argument........Jordan tore her a new anus yesterday in a polite way.....alicia destroyed bully Hopkins every time they clashed, Alicia knew a lot on her subjects, bully knew nothing other than a moronic attention seeking insult
she cant claim any moral high ground and her taunting of perez body fat , ginger babies, her celebrating of child slave labour are all disgusting examples to her children
when perez hasn't waggled his tongue hes owned bully Hopkins every time, simply by being a a nicer warmer more sincere more forgiving person..
even patsy made far more sense with her polite requests to give pacifism a chance
now even cheggers is tearing her to shreds....hes told the moronic twat he doesn't have to be abusive to be REAL...he is being real and real can be nice...he told her walking in half way through a discussion without knowing the facts then throwing out opinions and arguments is stupid and all done to promote her own disgusting brand of hateful bigotry.....its boring says cheggers and the great man is spot on , that's exactly what it is
shes stupider than Alicia and the most ignorant desperado in there

very true
trouble is people will still think shes telling the truth because no one has really ripped into her so that will be taken as her winning the argument

johne 01-02-2015 07:48 AM

She does well in her pantomime arguments with Perez, but Cheggers, Nadia, Katie P. have all left her speechless.

Hopkins is very good at tit for tat childish abuse, but when someone is serious with her she struggles.

Lstan 01-02-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by johne (Post 7554905)
She does well in her pantomime arguments with Perez, but Cheggers, Nadia, Katie P. have all left her speechless.

Hopkins is very good at tit for tat childish abuse, but when someone is serious with her she struggles.

good point i wonder if anyone else has spotted this because some easily led people uphold her opinions as being intelligent beacons of truth lol :joker:

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 07:57 AM

I don't agree with any of the above and am grateful for people like Katie without them, perhaps people would be prosecuted for free speech and you can see throughout history what direction a society heads when that happens.

Lstan 01-02-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7554912)
I don't agree with any of the above and am grateful for people like Katie without them, perhaps people would be prosecuted for free speech and you can see throughout history what direction a society heads when that happens.

oop found one
seriously tho why is it when ever we talk about this you bring up free speech, like the strawman argument is getting thin. no one is suggesting we take away her freedom of speech at all like chill.

johne 01-02-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7554912)
I don't agree with any of the above and am grateful for people like Katie without them, perhaps people would be prosecuted for free speech and you can see throughout history what direction a society heads when that happens.

Fully agree that free speech is only free when one is allowed to say things that upset people, and this maxim should apply to KH too. However, I've watched free speech under bitter attack on this forum, with one poster claiming that they were one of those complaining to Ofcom last week. The powers that be have it easy introducing the ever growing censorship we have seen in the UK since BB1 days with so many simple minded fools who think that we should all be free to only say things that they agree with.

MrWong 01-02-2015 08:06 AM

No she hasn't. Enough with the fan fiction.

-Sue- 01-02-2015 08:09 AM

Free Speech; Just because it can be said doesn't mean it should be said!

If we all went around saying what we thought surely that would turn our the planet into some kind of pot of vile hating humans who haven't a kind word to say about anything?

We all have opinions but when it hurts a person or group of people when they haven't done anything wrong is it really appropriate to hurt and hate on people simply because we can?

It's not ok to hate on ginger people, fat people etc simply because each and every person on this planet is different and they should NOT all be tarred with the same brush - we are all unique in our own way

bots 01-02-2015 08:10 AM

KH doesn't champion free speech as the only valid opinion according to her is her own. She uses and abuses free speech

rusticgal 01-02-2015 08:13 AM

Er...no she hasn't :joker:

Lstan 01-02-2015 08:19 AM

the OP wasnt about free speech at all so all of this is a derail.

Lstan 01-02-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johne (Post 7554918)
Fully agree that free speech is only free when one is allowed to say things that upset people, and this maxim should apply to KH too. However, I've watched free speech under bitter attack on this forum, with one poster claiming that they were one of those complaining to Ofcom last week. The powers that be have it easy introducing the ever growing censorship we have seen in the UK since BB1 days with so many simple minded fools who think that we should all be free to only say things that they agree with.

the majority of ofcom complaints have been abut perez tho
https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossi...172501571.html
again OP doesnt say that tho so i dunno why thats relevant to this thread

Samm 01-02-2015 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7554919)
No she hasn't. Enough with the fan fiction.

.

ebandit 01-02-2015 08:32 AM

dumb
 
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7554881)
shes so dumb and ignorant

quiz time...............which is most dumb and ignorant............katie h or

this post.........................sorry! for asking challenging questions.............

Mark L

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7554914)
oop found one
seriously tho why is it when ever we talk about this you bring up free speech, like the strawman argument is getting thin. no one is suggesting we take away her freedom of speech at all like chill.

I respect your opinion but don't think you can say you represent the "We" I feel confident to say that some people do want her "Stopped" and do want to take away her free speech (and by extension others) they do not agree with what she has to say. As long as that is the case, then I feel perfectly comfortable in expressing my thoughts.

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7554920)
Free Speech; Just because it can be said doesn't mean it should be said!

If we all went around saying what we thought surely that would turn our the planet into some kind of pot of vile hating humans who haven't a kind word to say about anything?

We all have opinions but when it hurts a person or group of people when they haven't done anything wrong is it really appropriate to hurt and hate on people simply because we can?

It's not ok to hate on ginger people, fat people etc simply because each and every person on this planet is different and they should NOT all be tarred with the same brush - we are all unique in our own way

You make a good argument but free speech includes the right to offend, by all means be critical of the nature of the comment but when the speaker is attacked for saying it, well that is the issue for me.

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7554933)
the OP wasnt about free speech at all so all of this is a derail.

Fair enough, I should have been more precise about the section I was concerned about.


"She should also have been prosecuted for causing racial hatred and for calling for genocide,these are both serious criminal convictions,and for good reason".

bots 01-02-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7554974)
Fair enough, I should have been more precise about the section I was concerned about.


"She should also have been prosecuted for causing racial hatred and for calling for genocide,these are both serious criminal convictions,and for good reason".

Inciting racial hatred is an offense though so it has nothing to do with free speech, as to whether i think KH was doing this, well that's another discussion

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2015 08:53 AM

Oh dear ,why do folk only see what they want to see and not whats happening ?

Jack The Cat 01-02-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7554981)
Inciting racial hatred is an offense though so it has nothing to do with free speech, as to whether i think KH was doing this, well that's another discussion

I agree and you are right. I would suggest if Katie's comments were considered a crime legally then given her high profile then she would have been prosecuted by now.

I guess that is part of my issue, disagreeing with someone is fine and indeed healthy but when people choose to be offended and demand people stopped, well then I have an issue. If people want the law to be changed then they do have options and can participate of course.

Kazanne 01-02-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7554910)
good point i wonder if anyone else has spotted this because some easily led people uphold her opinions as being intelligent beacons of truth lol :joker:

And some easily led people really don't understand the art of staying silent when it's needed when you don't agree with someone,,to 'win' an argument you don't have to be fuming and behaving like a toddler having a tantrum,mouthing obcenities,the best way sometimes is to just stare at them,and turn your back on them,try it,it really annoys them,:joker::joker:

-Sue- 01-02-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7554967)
You make a good argument but free speech includes the right to offend, by all means be critical of the nature of the comment but when the speaker is attacked for saying it, well that is the issue for me.

Ahh this is true.. I will admit when someone offends me / hates on me or someone I like then all bets are off and when some home truths are deserved. But it would be aimed at the person rather than where they were born, colour of skin, how they look, sexual preference etc.

I will always remember poppy day and a certain religion protesting the monument that to me is insanely wrong! (but then I suppose that is a topic for another day and another place) :D

chuff me dizzy 01-02-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7554995)
And some easily led people really don't understand the art of staying silent when it's needed when you don't agree with someone,,to 'win' an argument you don't have to be fuming and behaving like a toddler having a tantrum,mouthing obcenities,the best way sometimes is to just stare at them,and turn your back on them,try it,it really annoys them,:joker::joker:

I LOVE the way she does that !! it slays them and makes them look so silly


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