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Conzors 14-02-2015 10:51 PM

Why does it always have to be... (the first black, the first woman, the first gay)
 
...the first of everything?

Like why did everyone make a big deal about Obama being the first black president? Thatcher the first woman Prime Minister?

Gender and Race are the two most common in the 'firsts'

Why?
Why is it so important that there is a black president and hes the first?
Why is it so important that a woman is in the running to be something?

We are all human and being the 'first' of something just makes us segregate ourselves even more. We should judge for who we are as a person, not what gender we are or what colour we are.

Stupidity.

Daniel. 14-02-2015 10:52 PM

Where is your new selfie

Liam- 14-02-2015 10:54 PM

Because a first black President in a country which has grown out of severe racism is a massive thing, just like there being a first female prime minster after women faced hundreds of years of being looked down upon as lesser people because of their gender is a massive thing.

That's probably why they're celebrated as great things, because they are.

MB. 14-02-2015 10:55 PM

Because in most cases, it's a landmark. We've had centuries of white male prime ministers and presidents. If that cycle had kept repeating, people who weren't white males would have thought they'd never get the chance to achieve something like that. I guarantee that a lot of black aspiring politicians have got into politics due to Barack Obama (the same thing can't really be said about aspiring women politicians and Thatcher...)

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 14-02-2015 10:56 PM

i love racism

Conzors 14-02-2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 7592756)
Because in most cases, it's a landmark. We've had centuries of white male prime ministers and presidents. If that cycle had kept repeating, people who weren't white males would have thought they'd never get the chance to achieve something like that. I guarantee that a lot of black aspiring politicians have got into politics due to Barack Obama (the same thing can't really be said about aspiring women politicians and Thatcher...)

I get that.
I just dont see why they couldn't have gotten into politics if Obama didnt because president?

MB. 14-02-2015 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7592763)
I get that.
I just dont see why they couldn't have gotten into politics if Obama didnt because president?

I didn't say they wouldn't, but Obama's a more prominent role model than most people before him. Hence someone successful and important to look up to.

Conzors 14-02-2015 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 7592775)
I didn't say they wouldn't, but Obama's a more prominent role model than most people before him. Hence someone successful and important to look up to.

I suppose.
I guess i just see it as another person getting elected, rather than the first black person.

Pete. 14-02-2015 11:04 PM

Because they are firsts, like when the first 'male' 1st evictee in BB happens, people will make a fuss about that

Mokka 14-02-2015 11:05 PM

Because we are trying to get to a point in society where the first turns into the 50th and therefore a non-issue

Smithy 14-02-2015 11:05 PM

Because other gender/races/sexualitys have been oppressed for decades, it's important to point out landmarks in the reach for full equality

MB. 14-02-2015 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7592782)
Because they are firsts, like when the first 'male' 1st evictee in BB happens, people will make a fuss about that

Probably not quite the same fuss as the first black president though.

Smithy 14-02-2015 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7592782)
Because they are firsts, like when the first 'male' 1st evictee in BB happens, people will make a fuss about that

Omg :joker::joker:

Conzors 14-02-2015 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokkajava (Post 7592785)
Because we are trying to get to a point in society where the first turns into the 50th and therefore a non-issue

I like this :D

Vicky. 14-02-2015 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7592782)
Because they are firsts, like when the first 'male' 1st evictee in BB happens, people will make a fuss about that

1/100 odds on jarvio getting so excited he gives himself a heart attack...

Livia 16-02-2015 05:11 PM

It shows how far we've come as a society. Fifty years ago Obama would have had to sit in a different part of the bus to white people and use a different entrance to a building. Sammy Davis Jr was headlining in Las Vegas and had to use the kitchen entrance because black people weren't allowed in the front door... now they have a black president. Same with gay people, fifty years ago you could go to prison just for being homosexual.

Marsh. 16-02-2015 05:23 PM

With all due respect, it's a bit of a daft question.

The answer is pretty obvious.

arista 16-02-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7592742)
...the first of everything?

Like why did everyone make a big deal about Obama being the first black president? Thatcher the first woman Prime Minister?

Gender and Race are the two most common in the 'firsts'

Why?
Why is it so important that there is a black president and hes the first?
Why is it so important that a woman is in the running to be something?

We are all human and being the 'first' of something just makes us segregate ourselves even more. We should judge for who we are as a person, not what gender we are or what colour we are.

Stupidity.



Because the first Black President
means so much when in his lifetime
Blacks in America were going in separate doors.




Conzors Love
do not get in a tangle over
these terms


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