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arista 15-04-2015 04:41 PM

Mediterranean : boat's of Illegals off the coast of Libya, some drowned
 
More Problems for Italy
that pulled out of Search and Rescue Full Funding


http://news.sky.com/story/1465022/hu...wned-off-libya


These Illegal Migrants
are never going to Stop
I say dump them all in Germany

lostalex 15-04-2015 04:53 PM

it's very unfair that the mediterranean states are being saddled with this immigration burden when we all know they were probably heading for countries farther north.
The EU really need to either create an EU fleet to deal with this problem, or allocate much more money and resources to help the mediterranean states. it's not fair to blame Italy for this or expect them to deal with this problem themselves.

This is truly a European problem.

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2015 04:55 PM

more and more will come and this is why we need strict controls at our borders

arista 15-04-2015 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7701751)
it's very unfair that the Mediterranean states are being saddled with this immigration burden when we all know they were probably heading for countries farther north.
The EU really need to either create an EU fleet to deal with this problem, or allocate much more money and resources to help the Mediterranean states. it's not fair to blame Italy for this or expect them to deal with this problem themselves.

This is truly a European problem.

Sweden has taken the most
Let Germany have the rest
they can fund it.

arista 15-04-2015 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7701755)
more and more will come and this is why we need strict controls at our borders

Yes we do
as when they get here
they get all our money.


And we can no longer afford to fund them

Let the Fecking Germans have them

the truth 15-04-2015 05:32 PM

just horrific my heart bleeds for these people

smudgie 15-04-2015 06:06 PM

Tragic, those poor people.

Perhaps it is time to be taking a harder line.
Tow them all back to the shores they have left behind, then they might think twice about setting off again.:shrug:

Kizzy 15-04-2015 06:07 PM

It's really sad and just shows the desperation of these people :(

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7701943)
It's really sad and just shows the desperation of these people :(

well to be fair they dont really know much about seaworthiness or the danger, they are beeing fleeced by middle men of a promise of a great new life

its happened all through history

the clearances
Oz
Greenland

etc

its the hard end of capitalism and human evilness

rubymoo 15-04-2015 06:11 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32057601

This is an idea of the journey those from war torn countries face, this quiz is based on escaping from Syria.

empire 15-04-2015 06:20 PM

countries like italy can't cope with mass migrants. in its country, italians don't like having illegal migrants in its country, with isis next door to them, the rise of the right wing in italy, is growing, it is best they keep them out rather than in.

arista 15-04-2015 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7701943)
It's really sad and just shows the desperation of these people :(


Yes and the EU Commission
does FECK ALL


Illigal Migrants that go to South Africa
get killed (Ref : Ch4HD News Now)
some were burnt alive

MTVN 15-04-2015 06:25 PM

It's a very difficult issue, you can hardly blame people wanting to make the trip but it is very tough for Italy and there is a big security issue as well, only a couple of months ago IS were stating their intention to use migrant ships from Libya to get their fighters to Europe.

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2015 06:26 PM

I want to know who they paid for the trip and what those people told them?

its not as easy as "oh poor people escaping persecution"

its a business based on lies and ignorance

Vanessa 15-04-2015 09:36 PM

Why would they want to come to Italy? We don't even have work for ourselves. :umm2:

joeysteele 15-04-2015 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7702546)
Why would they want to come to Italy? We don't even have work for ourselves. :umm2:

It is a sad story,I agree with the posts that says it shows how desperate they must be to take such risks like this.

I hope things improve in Italy Vanessa.
I have tentatively been offered a job over there and I may just take off and go for it if the UK is heading out of the EU.

Vanessa 15-04-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7702565)
It is a sad story,I agree with the posts that says it shows how desperate they must be to take such risks like this.

I hope things improve in Italy Vanessa.
I have tentatively been offered a job over there and I may just take off and go for it if the UK is heading out of the EU.

I hope so as well. I worry about my nephews, who will find it very hard to find a job there. :(

joeysteele 15-04-2015 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7702589)
I hope so as well. I worry about my nephews, who will find it very hard to find a job there. :(

Lovely Country Vanessa as you know. Let's hope good things are coming for it soon.

Vanessa 15-04-2015 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7702609)
Lovely Country Vanessa as you know. Let's hope good things are coming for it soon.

Yes, it's beautiful. I'm going in July. The seaside there is amazing! :flutter:

Northern Monkey 15-04-2015 11:44 PM

I think there needs to be and probably will soon be a large naval or police presence in the Med from multiple countries to catch these ships and the resources to ship these migrants straight back to there country of origin.If it was done right then it would deter them from attempting these journeys.If people knew it was futile to try aswell as dangerous then hopefully they would think twice.The EU should pay for this since all its members pay into it.It is an EU problem.

Nedusa 16-04-2015 07:46 AM

This is a sad story, but to be honest no country in Europe can cope with a virtual never ending supply of African migrants who are mostly uneducated and with little or no skills.

They are of no use to these developed European countries and must not be allowed entry.

The EU needs to put into place Euro wide border controls to guard against this.

These potential migrants need to stop thinking they can just relocate to a richer country and all their problems will be solved. They cannot and should strive with help of billions upon billions of pounds of foreign aid to make their own countries prosperous .

They need to stay in their own countries and put their energies into tackling the problems there, not creating more problems for already overstretched European Countries

arista 16-04-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703041)
This is a sad story, but to be honest no country in Europe can cope with a virtual never ending supply of African migrants who are mostly uneducated and with little or no skills.

They are of no use to these developed European countries and must not be allowed entry.

The EU needs to put into place Euro wide border controls to guard against this.

These potential migrants need to stop thinking they can just relocate to a richer country and all their problems will be solved. They cannot and should strive with help of billions upon billions of pounds of foreign aid to make their own countries prosperous .

They need to stay in their own countries and put their energies into tackling the problems there, not creating more problems for already overstretched European Countries


Some said its cheaper to keep them in a "Big Ship"
until they go home
or onto another nation (Germany I say)

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2015 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703041)
This is a sad story, but to be honest no country in Europe can cope with a virtual never ending supply of African migrants who are mostly uneducated and with little or no skills.

They are of no use to these developed European countries and must not be allowed entry.

The EU needs to put into place Euro wide border controls to guard against this.

These potential migrants need to stop thinking they can just relocate to a richer country and all their problems will be solved. They cannot and should strive with help of billions upon billions of pounds of foreign aid to make their own countries prosperous .

They need to stay in their own countries and put their energies into tackling the problems there, not creating more problems for already overstretched European Countries

:clap1:

Nedusa 16-04-2015 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7701751)
it's very unfair that the mediterranean states are being saddled with this immigration burden when we all know they were probably heading for countries farther north.
The EU really need to either create an EU fleet to deal with this problem, or allocate much more money and resources to help the mediterranean states. it's not fair to blame Italy for this or expect them to deal with this problem themselves.

This is truly a European problem.

It's not unfair on Mediterranean Countries , just unlucky they are the first Countries that these people encounter.

This is NOT a European problem, this is an African problem these people are African and have no right to ssume they can just all go and live in somebody else's Country.

kirklancaster 16-04-2015 10:55 AM

I think this is quite illuminating.

http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.u...#axzz3XIkAhCi0


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