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Kizzy 18-04-2015 03:04 PM

Hopkins views, hate propaganda?
 
'Two things have been clear for years: a) Katie Hopkins has cleverly built a popular, personal brand on provocative views that tend to to demonise people she doesn’t like, and get a rise out of people who don’t like her; b) the best way to respond is not to respond at all.
That’s fine - Hopkins has children to feed and dress - and we can unfollow her, and avoid what she writes and says. Free country, free speech. Just look the other way.

But when a national newspaper, which gives this brand an audience of two million people, happily prints language that might give Hitler pause, is that still OK? Or is it worth responding this time, even if she’ll love every minute?

A bit strong to compare Hopkins to Hitler? Read her column on page 11 of yesterday’s Sun.

Rescue boats? I’d use gunships to stop migrants”. That was The Sun's headline, written apparently without concern.

She then refers to migrants in Calais who try to board trucks heading to Britain as “a plague of feral humans”.

You have to ask why this woman is given the platform she is, the sun and now LBC... Why?
I know there's a joke during internet conversations that they ultimately lead to Godwins law, but in this instance it does appear to have credence.

“Make no mistake, these migrants are like cockroaches. They might look a bit “Bob Geldof’s Ethiopia circa 1984”, but they are built to survive a nuclear bomb. They are survivors”.
In the environment that led to creation of the Third Reich in Germany, Polish people were seen as "an East European species of cockroach", while Jews were rats.
When Hutu extremists used radio propaganda to incite violence against the Tutsis during the Rwandan Genocide, they called on people to “weed out the cockroaches.”

Even before we consider her words in relation to the legal definition of racial hatred, The Sun has a responsibility to decide where to draw the line.

Personally I feel it is a well orchestrated plan to dehumanise subgroups; refugees, migrants, and also to similar though covert extent the disabled and the unemployed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10186490.html

Crimson Dynamo 18-04-2015 03:08 PM

or we could just focus on the real problem which is the migrants that we cant keep out?

Kizzy 18-04-2015 03:16 PM

No, in this thread I would like to focus on this.

Crimson Dynamo 18-04-2015 03:27 PM

what the Reductio ad Hitlerum

oh yeah

Kizzy 18-04-2015 03:47 PM

No, the concerns as expressed regarding the hate propaganda exhibited in the mainstream media by this individual.

lily. 18-04-2015 03:59 PM

It's an opinion column. She is entitled to her opinion. You don't have to agree with her. You don't even have to like her. I don't tend to read any of her columns, because she only writes these things for a reaction anyway.

kirklancaster 18-04-2015 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7707663)
No, the concerns as expressed regarding the hate propaganda exhibited in the mainstream media by this individual.

It is terrible, but I suppose at least she is not inciting people to go out and slaughter the immigrants the way that some of those very same immigrants incited their brothers to go out and slaughter we BRITISH from the pulpits and rostrums of BRITISH MOSQUES and UNIVERSITIES.

I suppose we must at least be thankful for that.

empire 18-04-2015 04:06 PM

britain is a left wing police state, people are demanding that she be jailed for her facebook tweets, that's how bad things are in this loony country.

kirklancaster 18-04-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7707671)
It's an opinion column. She is entitled to her opinion. You don't have to agree with her. You don't even have to like her. I don't tend to read any of her columns, because she only writes these things for a reaction anyway.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

joeysteele 18-04-2015 04:15 PM

I just hate everything about this woman and all she claims to stand for, as for her outlet for her total nastiness,insulting and controversial tripe, she and the SUN are well suited to each other.
It is absolutely no surprise to me at all that publication prints her vile trash, since it is full of it itself in its own editorials.

lily. 18-04-2015 04:17 PM

On that note Joey... I don't read The Sun either. It's full of ****e.

kirklancaster 18-04-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7707697)
I just hate everything about this woman and all she claims to stand for, as for her outlet for her total nastiness,insulting and controversial tripe, she and the SUN are well suited to each other.
It is absolutely no surprise to me at all that publication prints her vile trash, since it is full of it itself in its own editorials.

I couldn't agree more Joey - but like Lily, I don't buy the Sun or ever listen, watch or read Hopkins, but also as Lily says, as abhorrent and fake as it all is - Hopkins is entitled to her opinions.

Jack_ 18-04-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7707612)
or we could just focus on the real problem which is the migrants that we cant keep out?

:umm2:

please tell me this is a joke post

billy123 18-04-2015 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7707724)
:umm2:

please tell me this is a joke post

Nope we have a right wing extremist amongst us and he isnt the only one sadly. Tibb is a weird little place these days.

GiRTh 18-04-2015 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7707754)
Nope we have a right wing extremist amongst us and he isnt the only one sadly. Tibb is a weird little place these days.

:clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 18-04-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7707724)
:umm2:

please tell me this is a joke post

No there is a real problem with migrants trying to sneak into britain in lorrys. The mayor of calais is at her wits end as are the lorry drivers

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...urope-migrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-pictures.html


I would hate to be a lorry driver on that route

Crimson Dynamo 18-04-2015 05:09 PM

30,000 migrants heading for UK are held in Calais: Record numbers have been stopped at borders since April last year
  • Numbers of migrants detected at the border has doubled in a year
  • Experts say number who actually reached Britain was likely to be far higher
  • Not a single person arriving by train or coach is so far counted in and out
  • Migrants attracted to UK by work, free health care and generous benefits


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3614712748.jpg


Record numbers of illegal migrants are being stopped at UK borders, it was revealed last night. Senior officials said 36,000 unlawful stowaways had been discovered since last April.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3XgJpBgqM

arista 18-04-2015 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7707697)
I just hate everything about this woman and all she claims to stand for, as for her outlet for her total nastiness,insulting and controversial tripe, she and the SUN are well suited to each other.
It is absolutely no surprise to me at all that publication prints her vile trash, since it is full of it itself in its own editorials.


But thats Not the real her
you do know that

lily. 18-04-2015 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7707754)
Nope we have a right wing extremist amongst us and he isnt the only one sadly. Tibb is a weird little place these days.

"these days"? ... it's always been weird here. lol

kirklancaster 18-04-2015 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7707798)
30,000 migrants heading for UK are held in Calais: Record numbers have been stopped at borders since April last year
  • Numbers of migrants detected at the border has doubled in a year
  • Experts say number who actually reached Britain was likely to be far higher
  • Not a single person arriving by train or coach is so far counted in and out
  • Migrants attracted to UK by work, free health care and generous benefits


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3614712748.jpg


Record numbers of illegal migrants are being stopped at UK borders, it was revealed last night. Senior officials said 36,000 unlawful stowaways had been discovered since last April.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3XgJpBgqM

Just as with the 'refugees' and 'asylum seekers' - why are 99.9% of these immigrants MEN?

Actually, I like the term; 'Asylum seeker' better, because if Farage does not do well, then these 'Seekers' will continue to not only find this 'Asylum' but continue to FLOOD INTO IT.

AnnieK 18-04-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7707697)
I just hate everything about this woman and all she claims to stand for, as for her outlet for her total nastiness,insulting and controversial tripe, she and the SUN are well suited to each other.
It is absolutely no surprise to me at all that publication prints her vile trash, since it is full of it itself in its own editorials.

Agreed

Niamh. 18-04-2015 05:55 PM

She's a revolting human being and it makes me sick that she's been given such a platform to spout her bile. These people are human beings and if any of us had the misfortune of being born in the "wrong" side of the world we'd be trying to get somewhere to save ourselves and our families too

Ninastar 18-04-2015 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7707671)
It's an opinion column. She is entitled to her opinion. You don't have to agree with her. You don't even have to like her. I don't tend to read any of her columns, because she only writes these things for a reaction anyway.

Beautifully said. Totally agree.

GiRTh 18-04-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7707919)
She's a revolting human being and it makes me sick that she's been given such a platform to spout her bile. These people are human beings and if any of us had the misfortune of being born in the "wrong" side of the world we'd be trying to get somewhere to save ourselves and our families too

:clap1:

Pete. 18-04-2015 06:15 PM

If you don't like her views, don't read them


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