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y.winter 28-05-2015 10:17 PM

Aaron doing to sexual harassment what Goody&Lloyd&O'meara have done to racism?
 
In the sense of showcasing a real case on TV to examine and learn?
I mean, when you hear on the news of people who have gone through a sexual abuse and all the debating on "a no is a no" and where the line is crossed between playful game and sexual harassment.
You can see the (innocent? confusion?) laughing, the awkwardness, the confusion, the embarrassment, the not-so-dark-as-imagined atmosphere, the hindsight regrets - all the ingredients are up there, these are things courts of law are dealing and examining in multiple cases.

Pete. 28-05-2015 10:19 PM

Yes I drew up comparisons from tonight to Jade vs Shilpa

But the fact that he was expelled and Jade and her associates weren't just highlights the hypocrisy of Aaron's ejection further

VanessaFeltz. 29-05-2015 04:11 AM

the fact that couple of silly dumb bitches making stupid comments gets more reaction than a naked man sexually harrashing someone on live tv baffles me.

Beetlejuice 29-05-2015 04:13 AM

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In the sense of showcasing a real case on TV to examine and learn?
No.

y.winter 29-05-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7822688)
No.

The fact there's a debate on the forum whether it can be labelled as an harassment or not proves it does.

Niamh. 29-05-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7821785)
Yes I drew up comparisons from tonight to Jade vs Shilpa

But the fact that he was expelled and Jade and her associates weren't just highlights the hypocrisy of Aaron's ejection further

In a way though the fact that Jade wasn't ejected but instead was evicted by the public to no crowd was a worse consequence to deal with for her and also pretty much ruined her career

Pete. 29-05-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7822919)
In a way though the fact that Jade wasn't ejected but instead was evicted by the public to no crowd was a worse consequence to deal with for her and also pretty much ruined her career

Jade had time to make up with Shilpa a day or so before her eviction, if she was ejected the same day as the argument I think it would have made her look worse.

Plus, I think she handled her eviction interview well.

chuff me dizzy 29-05-2015 09:21 AM

Jade was NOT racist,since when has a poppadom been a race ?

Pete. 29-05-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7822945)
Jade was NOT racist,since when has a poppadom been a race ?

It was racist to Indians

chuff me dizzy 29-05-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7822964)
It was racist to Indians

Was it? a food stuff is racist ?

Pete. 29-05-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7822968)
Was it? a food stuff is racist ?

bye

Niamh. 29-05-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7822926)
Jade had time to make up with Shilpa a day or so before her eviction, if she was ejected the same day as the argument I think it would have made her look worse.

Plus, I think she handled her eviction interview well.

She looked bad either way and it ruined her really. I barely remember the interview now though tbh

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7822945)
Jade was NOT racist,since when has a poppadom been a race ?

She was certainly a bully though and her little gang together were racist. The context in which used poppadom was racist

Denver 29-05-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7822975)
She looked bad either way and it ruined her really. I barely remember the interview now though tbh



She was certainly a bully though and her little gang together were racist. The context in which used poppadom was racist

I see it as Jade didnt intend on being racist but the way she said it came across that way

Beso 29-05-2015 09:37 AM

Haggis.

Pete. 29-05-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7822975)
She was certainly a bully though and her little gang together were racist. The context in which used poppadom was racist

This :clap1:

Shaun 29-05-2015 09:41 AM

I would sort-of like to sit down and have a read of a book on how Jade/Jo/Danielle/Jack/Jackiey weren't racist, just because I love a good laugh, but on the other hand it'd probably be soul-destroyingly awful.

I mean Jack literally called Shilpa a '****ing ****' (behind her back), I'm not sure how more clear-cut it needed to be.

Edit: forgot about the censored words lol... the 2nd word rhymed with tacky.

Niamh. 29-05-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7822994)
I would sort-of like to sit down and have a read of a book on how Jade/Jo/Danielle/Jack/Jackiey weren't racist, just because I love a good laugh, but on the other hand it'd probably be soul-destroyingly awful.

I mean Jack literally called Shilpa a '****ing ****' (behind her back), I'm not sure how more clear-cut it needed to be.

Edit: forgot about the censored words lol... the 2nd word rhymed with tacky.

yup and Danielle said after Shilpa messed up cooking the chicken "Maybe that's why they're all so skinny over there"

Niamh. 29-05-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7822980)
I see it as Jade didnt intend on being racist but the way she said it came across that way

yeah, I mean of course the word "popadum" by itself while you're ordering a take away isn't racist, but when used to highlight the fact that someone is Indian in a nasty way towards a person you and your friends had been bullying for the last few weeks.........it certainly becomes racist

Jason. 29-05-2015 10:35 AM

What annoys most about the race row is how Danielle pretty much got away with it all, while Jade and Jo were thrown to the pack of wolves.

I think Danielle was much worse than Jo ever was.
Danielle's comments were disgusting and yet she received a less hostile time than both Goody and O'Meara.

"I wish she'd **** off home"
"She can't even speak English properly anyway"
"She's a dog"
"Is that what they do in India, eat with their hands?"

Niamh. 29-05-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BB6 (Post 7823119)
What annoys most about the race row is how Danielle pretty much got away with it all, while Jade and Jo were thrown to the pack of wolves.

I think Danielle was much worse than Jo ever was.
Danielle's comments were disgusting and yet she received a less hostile time than both Goody and O'Meara.

"I wish she'd **** off home"
"She can't even speak English properly anyway"
"She's a dog"
"Is that what they do in India, eat with their hands?"

I guess the reason Danielle got off easier (eventhough as you pointed out she said the worst things) was first of all because she was the least famous, i know I had never heard of her before she went in. Also, Jade at the time was in the height of her fame and popularity as a personality (rather than Danielle being known for getting her boobs out) so she was always going to fall the hardest from grace and on top of that Jade seemed to be the HBIC really, she may not have said the worst things but she was certainly the loudest and most vocal towards Shilpa and Jo and Danielle seemed to be doing and saying what they were to impress Jade rather than because they really hated Shilpa, if that makes sense? That's how I saw it anyway

Jason. 29-05-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7823132)
I guess the reason Danielle got off easier (eventhough as you pointed out she said the worst things) was first of all because she was the least famous, i know I had never heard of her before she went in. Also, Jade at the time was in the height of her fame and popularity as a personality (rather than Danielle being known for getting her boobs out) so she was always going to fall the hardest from grace and on top of that Jade seemed to be the HBIC really, she may not have said the worst things but she was certainly the loudest and most vocal towards Shilpa and Jo and Danielle seemed to be doing and saying what they were to impress Jade rather than because they really hated Shilpa, if that makes sense? That's how I saw it anyway

I agree.
I think because Danielle was only good looking and famous for getting her tits out, nobody really cared about what she thought.

Whereas Jade and Jo were famous because of their personalities.

It was inevitable Jade was going to get the worst treatment, but I genuinely think Jo got a much harsher treatment than she should've, IMO.

Dash Darington 29-05-2015 11:04 AM

The Jade-Shilpa thing was based on class conflict and straight jealousy, with only passing references to Shilpa's race and nationality. It didn't "do" anything to racism, other than serve as a pretense for race-baiters.

I think virtually all men understand that if you rub your penis on a casual acquaintance in a very public manner, you're probably going to have a problem.

Pete. 29-05-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 7823187)
The Jade-Shilpa thing was based on class conflict and straight jealousy, with only passing references to Shilpa's race and nationality. It didn't "do" anything to racism, other than serve as a pretense for race-baiters.

I think virtually all men understand that if you rub your penis on a casual acquaintance in a very public manner, you're probably going to have a problem.

The class excuse is lame and does not excuse the racist and bullying tactics used by Jade

Dash Darington 29-05-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7823295)
The class excuse is lame and does not excuse the racist and bullying tactics used by Jade

Class conflict is the reason those tactics were employed, not an excuse for them.


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