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arista 08-06-2015 06:47 AM

PM David Cameron To Ministers: Vote Yes so long as he gets what we want
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1497961/ca...n-eu-or-resign


He is calling their bluff
well done Dave


[ PM David Cameron has told Eurosceptic ministers
they will be forced to quit
if they want to campaign for the UK to leave the European Union.]


He is not doing the Harold Wilson move in the 1970's



Of Course its still up to the Public on that Day
we Vote in Late 2017

joeysteele 08-06-2015 09:48 AM

IF he gets some reforms he is saying they have to do that.

He is right however,they should toe the line and already over the last 2 years, some have indicated they could be tempted to vote to leave.
In 1975, the Cabinet was given freedom to campaign for one side or the other.
That also was right at that time.

My worry as to David Cameron's negotiation process is that he is not clearly defining what it is his aims are and on what.
We all need to see all that very clearly outlined as to the full aims he is seeking to re-negotiate on and then to have the result he got, if any, alongside at the end of the negotiations.
Otherwise how can anyone measure any success he has had or failure too.

That will cause him the biggest headache with the Conservative party.
I am just glad to hear him talk more positive as to the EU now and hope he is able to ensure a 'yes' result to staying in too.

arista 08-06-2015 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7859670)
IF he gets some reforms he is saying they have to do that.

He is right however,they should toe the line and already over the last 2 years, some have indicated they could be tempted to vote to leave.
In 1975, the Cabinet was given freedom to campaign for one side or the other.
That also was right at that time.

My worry as to David Cameron's negotiation process is that he is not clearly defining what it is his aims are and on what.
We all need to see all that very clearly outlined as to the full aims he is seeking to re-negotiate on and then to have the result he got, if any, alongside at the end of the negotiations.
Otherwise how can anyone measure any success he has had or failure too.

That will cause him the biggest headache with the Conservative party.
I am just glad to hear him talk more positive as to the EU now and hope he is able to ensure a 'yes' result to staying in too.


Yes it appears the German Woman
is going to help Dave

joeysteele 08-06-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7859682)
Yes it appears the German Woman
is going to help Dave

He has my whole support on this issue,I hope he can and think he 'must' do enough to make sure we don't go down the chaos that will come with a 'no' result.

Kizzy 08-06-2015 10:32 AM

Praying this becomes a reality :hehe:

'The Telegraph has identified six senior Tories who it thinks could resign over Europe. It’s a slightly odd list, because it includes Boris Johnson, who has not got a government job he could resign from (although he does attend political cabinet). The other names are: Philip Hammond, Sajid Javid, Michael Gove, Michael Fallon and Iain Duncan Smith.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-politics-live

Kizzy 08-06-2015 11:21 AM

'Cameron withdraws threat to sack Brexit ministers in EU referendum U-turn

The lobby briefing was over. And we got a major story.

David Cameron has withdrawn his threat to sack ministers who want to campaign for an EU exit.
Number 10 says his comments yesterday were “over-interpreted” and that he was just talking about ministers having to abide by collective responsibility during the negotiation process. Journalists at the prime minister’s briefing do not accept that they misrepresented his words, and the transcript supports their account.
Number 10 says Cameron has not yet decided whether or not ministers will be sacked if they oppose Britain staying in the EU during the renegotiation.'

arista 08-06-2015 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7859846)
'Cameron withdraws threat to sack Brexit ministers in EU referendum U-turn

The lobby briefing was over. And we got a major story.

David Cameron has withdrawn his threat to sack ministers who want to campaign for an EU exit.
Number 10 says his comments yesterday were “over-interpreted” and that he was just talking about ministers having to abide by collective responsibility during the negotiation process. Journalists at the prime minister’s briefing do not accept that they misrepresented his words, and the transcript supports their account.
Number 10 says Cameron has not yet decided whether or not ministers will be sacked if they oppose Britain staying in the EU during the renegotiation.'


How Nice

Kizzy 08-06-2015 11:43 AM

In January Marr asked Cameron if he would give Conservative ministers the freedom to campaign for Britain to leave the EU in the propose referendum.

Cameron replied:

Well, there are Conservative Members of Parliament who want the leave the European Union come what may, but if you’re part of the government, then clearly you’re part of the team that is aiming for the renegotiation.

Marr then asked for clarification. “So you’re not going to do a free vote, as Labour did in the 1970s?”

Cameron repled:

No, I’ve set out that very clearly in the past.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/09012015.pdf

the truth 08-06-2015 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7859752)
Praying this becomes a reality :hehe:

'The Telegraph has identified six senior Tories who it thinks could resign over Europe. It’s a slightly odd list, because it includes Boris Johnson, who has not got a government job he could resign from (although he does attend political cabinet). The other names are: Philip Hammond, Sajid Javid, Michael Gove, Michael Fallon and Iain Duncan Smith.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-politics-live

praying? do you believe in God then? wow

as for Cameron here, hes making a right Horlicks of this, he needs to be taken seriously by the EU in order to strengthen his negotiating position, not roll over for them to tickle his belly

empire 08-06-2015 01:01 PM

cameron is digging his own hole, he is isolating his anti eu mps, and supporters, I see a large mount of defectors to ukip, from the tories if he forces them out,

arista 08-06-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empire (Post 7860133)
cameron is digging his own hole, he is isolating his anti eu mps, and supporters, I see a large mount of defectors to ukip, from the tories if he forces them out,


No he has Corrected it at the Live G7 (Germany)
I have Changed the title.


No one is going to UKIP
The PM has the backing of all his party.


Meanwhile Farage has a Great Deal of Work to do.

Kizzy 08-06-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7860095)
praying? do you believe in God then? wow

as for Cameron here, hes making a right Horlicks of this, he needs to be taken seriously by the EU in order to strengthen his negotiating position, not roll over for them to tickle his belly

I've never not believed in god.

the truth 08-06-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7860500)
I've never not believed in god.

I dighted to hear you believe in God. what religion do you follow?

Kizzy 08-06-2015 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7860533)
I dighted to hear you believe in God. what religion do you follow?

none, not that it has anything to do with the thread :/


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