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tomrain 14-06-2015 05:57 AM

I am disturbed by the amount of negativity towards Jack
 
Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.

ruiphillips 14-06-2015 06:21 AM

So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.

arista 14-06-2015 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomrain (Post 7878213)
Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.


No He Stinks

Jack Must Be Evicted

Its Good To Cry.

arista 14-06-2015 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruiphillips (Post 7878225)
So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.


Helen brought up the Fact he is Fat.


He is doing nothing to change that



I can look in the mirror
& I never applied to go on to Big Brother Timebomb

NotARylanFan 14-06-2015 06:33 AM

I think the fact he won the "Winner" vote has overtime gone to his head, the fact the original housemates have never nominated him despite him providing them with multiple valid reasons for doing so has created a sense of entitlement.

ie when he ripped into Sam for nominating him because of his gambling issue when he was saying "I TRUSTED YOU AND YOU THREW IT IN MY FACE!!!!" and got extremely irrate about it - only for Sam to calmly point out that Jack never had that conversation with her, and she only heard it via Simon/in the media and online before entering.

You could place a few housemates in that same position as Jack and you could almost guarantee they'd be nominated for it.

Gusto Brunt 14-06-2015 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7878229)
Helen brought up the Fact he is Fat.


...

I thought I first heard Brian say it.

billy123 14-06-2015 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruiphillips (Post 7878225)
So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.

You are half right. I think he is an utter cock because of how he behaves but agree anybody that uses his weight or the way he looks to attack him is a nob.

DemolitionRed 14-06-2015 07:25 AM

I agree that weight shouldn't be used as a dislike of someone.

I went seriously off Jack when he had a go at Chloe for nominating him. As has already been said here, his sense of entitlement and his over inflated ego really showed up in those moments and he went from being one of my favourites to one of my least favourites.

Mick 14-06-2015 07:32 AM

I agree the OP.I never got the impression that Jack gave up the car because he thought it was a given that he would win.Likewise he gave away at least one of his passes.

Yes we are seeing another side to his character but we all have this when put under pressure.The only real negativity I have seen against him from other HMs stemmed from marc.

RE His size yes he complains about lack of food (as do the others) but it was Adjoa and Cristian who where accused of eating more than there fair share so he may be over weight but not at the expense of his fellow HMs.

He and harry where / are marcs main targets the latter because she stands up to him but Jack because Marc still thinks or thought that Jack can win.?

As a viewer I still enjoy watching him more so than some others so hope he stays longer.

sampvt 14-06-2015 07:38 AM

Its not his weight, but that does not help in some small minded peoples eyes, its the fact that he is lazy, smelly and nasty. He is a big head and needs a reality check.

Rorkimaru 14-06-2015 07:39 AM

He shouldn't be condemned for living an unhealthy lifestyle, half the house smoke after all.

However it's perfectly fine to condemn him for his moaning, his constant gossiping, that he provides little to no entertainment and that he turns on people the moment their back is turned. It's grand to not like how he flips the lid whenever anything goes the "wrong" way or how he can't own responsibility for his own actions. There are plenty of reasons to not like Jack and he has no charm to save himself. Mark is charming and despite things on a surface level looking dickish is probably a nicer and more genuine person and housemates than Jack.

Mick 14-06-2015 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7878251)
Its not his weight, but that does not help in some small minded peoples eyes, its the fact that he is lazy, smelly and nasty. He is a big head and needs a reality check.

I do not feel the need to fight his corner but RE your above sam what evidence that he is more lazy than others or that he smells.Likewise "nasty".?

bots 14-06-2015 07:49 AM

i don't like Jack, he is an obnoxious, self entitled twat. I'm perfectly entitled to that opinion, no need for concern or to be disturbed.

Jay. 14-06-2015 07:58 AM

it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

Pete. 14-06-2015 08:03 AM

I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate

arista 14-06-2015 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7878267)
I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate


Valid Point

Liam- 14-06-2015 08:16 AM

His weight doesn't bother me, nor does it contribute towards my dislike of him, he's just a grade a twat with anger issues and a superiority complex, that's why I dislike him, I can't speak for everyone though.

Daniel-X 14-06-2015 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay. (Post 7878262)
it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

This. It's how BB has always worked.

bots 14-06-2015 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay. (Post 7878262)
it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

oh no it isn't :fist:

joeysteele 14-06-2015 09:25 AM

I am indifferent to Jack, he isn't one of them that I would support to win but I can see myself voting others out before him too.
He does complain, he does moan a lot but then near all of them do or have over this series already anyway.

Often when he flies off the handle, I find that funny and also get a laugh at that happening.

I don't take his weight into account as any relevant factor whatsoever,I don't even think he is that overweight anyway.
A lot of posts contain the word 'fat' as to Jack and I really see no need for that myself.
So I agree with the opening post really as to Jack.

Cherie 14-06-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay. (Post 7878262)
it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

Don't you think over the top hate for a guy who has essentially been a good housemate might follow him after the show though?

Kazanne 14-06-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7878235)
I thought I first heard Brian say it.

People have selected hearing at times Gusto:laugh:

Cherie 14-06-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7878267)
I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate

How is he an awful housemate when there are so many threads about him he is actually a great housemate as he as given the forum so many talking points, If you want a truly awful housemate look towards Danny, nothing to say for himself, and a clip of him talking to himself cutting his hair being a high point, what's worse is he might actually win :umm2:

y.winter 14-06-2015 09:38 AM

BB14 Sam post trauma. With Helen being a sad aftermath.

Trasadkel1 14-06-2015 10:35 AM

I don't like Jack and it is a definite that he will be nominated and subsequently evicted but in my opinion he can wait. If it was between Danny and Jack I would prefer Danny to go. Jack, although immensely annoying, offers far more to the show than Danny. His monotone voice and fake personality annoy me far more than Jack.


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