Marc manipulating Simon now
 

He just wants Jack up for eviction so badly it's laughable

...so does the rest of the world.

Marc didn't want Jack did he?

Marc made no mention of Jack in that little conversation. If Simon himself is unpopular on the outside world, then who else in the house is unpopular with the public? Survival tactics! Nothing wrong with it. :shrug: Simon's playing the game is all.

i think simon would of nominated this is certain someone regardless

I think so too. Jack has been picking on Simon for weeks now, so the fat **** deserves it.

Simon was always up for picking Jack he didn't need manipulated because Jack's been a dick to him.

Marks been wanting Danny up I thought as he wants to break the clique up ffs I wish he was up he seems to think it all revolves round him

I knew someone would say this :bored:.......Marc could have been talking about any of those left, not a single hint at it being Jack,if you dislike Marc fair enough,but at least find something worthy of disliking him

It doesnt matter what Marc does he will get blamed for everything Simon can make his own mind up

I don't think he did at all, Simon has said on numours occasions that doesn't get on well with Jack.

Simon knew who he was going for he didn't need Marc to tell him.

He gets blamed for nothing. because it's all just "banter"

erm, i actually think he was talking about Jack though. i've been singing Marcs praises all day, i love him, but he was talking about Jack. why's that a bad thing?

reason i know it's Jack he was talking about was coz he said in the DR, and i swear he mentioned Jack by name, but if he didn't it was so obvious he was talking about him. saying he needs to be knocked off a pedestal and be knocked back down to earth. i'm pretty sure he did explicitly say he as talking about Jack though. i have it recorded so i can re-watch it

Marc didn't mention names but he did insinuate that someone needs to be knocked off their soapbox...obviously Jack.
However Jacks attack on Simon for nominating him 2 weeks ago was good enough reason for him to target Jack.

However those immune should not be allowed to influence...and Marc and Helen tried to do that to Sam...but Sam just went for the weakest link to save herself. Good for her...that's the game. Marc should be in with the mix this week...giving him another week of immunity was wrong....but to allow him to manipulate the votes is against the rules. Will he be punished?...NO.

Don't care if Marc fans want to deny what Marc was trying to do, but it was obvious that Marc was trying to persuade Simon to put Jack up, just like the tried to manipulate Sam last night.

I agree with you with reguards to Sam, but I dont think he did it with Simon.

Absolutely right. He could easily have been hinting at Danny...

I thought he wanted Danny,but I might be wrong.

He told Simon to nominate with conviction rather than mumbling PC nonsense. He didn't tell him who to do it to.