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sampvt 22-06-2015 08:53 PM

Who or what is Helen
 
If we look at her life objectively and without malice or favour, she seems to be a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go. She obviously decided to do whatever she had to do to make ends meet and having very few skills, she turned her hand to a trade that some of us find somewhat unlikable.

After struggling for a while she hit the mother load with the Rooney affair and naturally, it changed her life. She went on BB and won it and has seemingly left her chequered past behind her and to a degree, she is playing up the bad girl persona because like many before her, it is something that certain aspect of our community love to embrace.

She knows her debating skills are a matter of discussion but in all fairness to her, she has never waivered in her style and now society depicts how she is viewed and she does not disappoint. BB paid her to do a demolition job in there and she is playing a blinder and is true to herself, unlike her fellow celeb mates.

Was she a call girl, yes, is she now, no. Is she a bitch, yes, is that what she is paid for, yes. Personally I like to watch her but wouldn't like her round for tea. Is she an asset to the show, of course she is. Is she making a difference, well that's a difference that many will argue about but at the end of the day, good or bad difference, the show is better off because of her on all levels and we wont know how she was until she is gone.

Kazanne 22-06-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7915411)
If we look at her life objectively and without malice or favour, she seems to be a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go. She obviously decided to do whatever she had to do to make ends meet and having very few skills, she turned her hand to a trade that some of us find somewhat unlikable.

After struggling for a while she hit the mother load with the Rooney affair and naturally, it changed her life. She went on BB and won it and has seemingly left her chequered past behind her and to a degree, she is playing up the bad girl persona because like many before her, it is something that certain aspect of our community love to embrace.

She knows her debating skills are a matter of discussion but in all fairness to her, she has never waivered in her style and now society depicts how she is viewed and she does not disappoint. BB paid her to do a demolition job in there and she is playing a blinder and is true to herself, unlike her fellow celeb mates.

Was she a call girl, yes, is she now, no. Is she a bitch, yes, is that what she is paid for, yes. Personally I like to watch her but wouldn't like her round for tea. Is she an asset to the show, of course she is. Is she making a difference, well that's a difference that many will argue about but at the end of the day, good or bad difference, the show is better off because of her on all levels and we wont know how she was until she is gone.

I'de love to go for night out with Helen,I bet it would be a great laugh,she's great,I like her.

Beetlejuice 22-06-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7915411)
If we look at her life objectively and without malice or favour, she seems to be a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go.

She isn't Jade Goody, born to a one armed lesbian heroin addict of a mother. She grew up in a nice Middle Class home.


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She obviously decided to do whatever she had to do to make ends meet and having very few skills, she turned her hand to a trade that some of us find somewhat unlikable.

After struggling for a while she hit the mother load with the Rooney affair and naturally, it changed her life. She went on BB and won it and has seemingly left her chequered past behind her and to a degree, she is playing up the bad girl persona because like many before her, it is something that certain aspect of our community love to embrace.

She knows her debating skills are a matter of discussion but in all fairness to her, she has never waivered in her style and now society depicts how she is viewed and she does not disappoint. BB paid her to do a demolition job in there and she is playing a blinder and is true to herself, unlike her fellow celeb mates.

Was she a call girl, yes, is she now, no. Is she a bitch, yes, is that what she is paid for, yes. Personally I like to watch her but wouldn't like her round for tea. Is she an asset to the show, of course she is. Is she making a difference, well that's a difference that many will argue about but at the end of the day, good or bad difference, the show is better off because of her on all levels and we wont know how she was until she is gone.
I don't know what to say anymore, when I read this stuff.

Dollface 22-06-2015 09:03 PM

"a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go"

She was the one who decided to get pregnant at 15 and then go into prostitution (to fund her holidays and plastic surgery no doubt), she's the one that put herself in the limelight, using her affair with Rooney as her claim to fame. She's the one that treats everyone like utter crap. It's all her own doing.

Babschap 22-06-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7915452)
"a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go"

She was the one who decided to get pregnant at 15 and then go into prostitution (to fund her holidays and plastic surgery no doubt), she's the one that put herself in the limelight, using her affair with Rooney as her claim to fame. She's the one that treats everyone like utter crap. It's all her own doing.


Precisely, seems that some will make any excuse for that creature.

sampvt 22-06-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7915452)
"a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go"

She was the one who decided to get pregnant at 15 and then go into prostitution (to fund her holidays and plastic surgery no doubt), she's the one that put herself in the limelight, using her affair with Rooney as her claim to fame. She's the one that treats everyone like utter crap. It's all her own doing.

its so sad to hear you have to carry so much hate around with you.

rusticgal 22-06-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7915420)
I'de love to go for night out with Helen,I bet it would be a great laugh,she's great,I like her.

Personally I couldn't think of anything worse. Someone who likes to be in control...someone who thrives on confrontation.
I like to have a laugh on a night out...girlie chats...no one dominating, because that's what she does.
One way traffic...I like to be around people that are on equal footing, having fun..and not at someone else's expense.

Dollface 22-06-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7915510)
its so sad to hear you have to carry so much hate around with you.

If humans weren't so vile, I wouldn't have so much hate :(

But thanks for replying to the points I'd made on my post... Oh wait, you only commented about me :omgno:

smudgie 22-06-2015 09:33 PM

She had a decent start in life..not so much of the woe is me really.
Her lifestyle choice is hers to make, being a prostitute does not make you a bad person, being downright nasty and the language to go with it on national TV when you have a young lad at home is another matter.
I feel for him and the crap he is in for.

MrWong 22-06-2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7915444)
She isn't Jade Goody, born to a one armed lesbian heroin addict of a mother. She grew up in a nice Middle Class home.

This was pointed out many, many times last year. Yet she's still painted as someone that was dealt a bad hand.

Dollface 22-06-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 7915621)
She had a decent start in life..not so much of the woe is me really.
Her lifestyle choice is hers to make, being a prostitute does not make you a bad person, being downright nasty and the language to go with it on national TV when you have a young lad at home is another matter.
I feel for him and the crap he is in for.

:clap1:

Withano 22-06-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7915411)
If we look at her life objectively and without malice or favour, she seems to be a lass that wasn't dealt a very good hand from the get go. She obviously decided to do whatever she had to do to make ends meet and having very few skills, she turned her hand to a trade that some of us find somewhat unlikable.

After struggling for a while she hit the mother load with the Rooney affair and naturally, it changed her life. She went on BB and won it and has seemingly left her chequered past behind her and to a degree, she is playing up the bad girl persona because like many before her, it is something that certain aspect of our community love to embrace.

She knows her debating skills are a matter of discussion but in all fairness to her, she has never waivered in her style and now society depicts how she is viewed and she does not disappoint. BB paid her to do a demolition job in there and she is playing a blinder and is true to herself, unlike her fellow celeb mates.

Was she a call girl, yes, is she now, no. Is she a bitch, yes, is that what she is paid for, yes. Personally I like to watch her but wouldn't like her round for tea. Is she an asset to the show, of course she is. Is she making a difference, well that's a difference that many will argue about but at the end of the day, good or bad difference, the show is better off because of her on all levels and we wont know how she was until she is gone.

I agree with everything you said apart from the bold

I didn't watch her series much and I know equally little about her personal life. I dislike her as a person and as a housemate because she is a ****.


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