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Jake. 25-06-2015 01:46 AM
: "I'm a legend, you never were"
 
https://twitter.com/bbuklive/status/613829976329187333

@BBUKLive: 11.04pm: Nikki: "I'm a legend, you never were."
Helen and Nikki are having an argument. #BBUKLive

Now we'll have to wait and see what this argument entails, but do you agree?

Jack_ 25-06-2015 01:48 AM
In terms of Big Brother, it's pretty much a fact that Nikki Grahame is a legend and is arguably the face of the show.

Superfans can all name C5 era housemates as 'legends' if they wish cause they are in our small circle, but barely anyone else knows them, so yeah, they're not

Jason. 25-06-2015 01:49 AM
Nikki's in the right.

But let's be honest here, Aisleyne's ****s on both of them.

Shaun 25-06-2015 01:50 AM
It's been almost ten years and videos/gifs/vines of Nikki's stint in BB7 are still shared and talked about. She is culturally relevant, and arguably the most famous BB Housemate of all time. The only real comparison is Jade Goody, really.

I'm not a betting man but I very much doubt anyone (outside of Big Brother fans) will care or know who Helen Wood is in eight years.

Jack_ 25-06-2015 01:53 AM
I'd probably rank the most recognisable housemates, and therefore 'legends' as:

1) Nikki
2) Pete
3) Brian Belo
4) Brian Dowling

And Jade would be first if we're going to include her. But I think that's it, to be honest.

Jason. 25-06-2015 01:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7925466)
I'd probably rank the most recognisable housemates, and therefore 'legends' as:

1) Nikki
2) Pete
3) Brian Belo
4) Brian Dowling

And Jade would be first if we're going to include her. But I think that's it, to be honest.
I don't think Pete or Brian Belo should be up there. IMO.

Brian Belo isn't even that memorable. TBH.

LukeB 25-06-2015 02:01 AM
Yeah I'm not saying this because I dislike Helen and Love Nikki but Nikki is an actual legend and the face of big brother who so many would be able to name if you asked random people in the street. Helen is not on that level at all. The fact that people keep bringing up "Helen Won" doesn't mean a thing tbh. You don't have to win a series to become a legend. imo C4 housemates will always be better than C5 housemates tbh.

Jack_ 25-06-2015 02:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BB6 (Post 7925472)
I don't think Pete or Brian Belo should be up there. IMO.

Brian Belo isn't even that memorable. TBH.
It's not necessarily about who is memorable, just whose name is most associated with the show. If you said Nikki, Pete (especially 'Nikki and Pete') or Brian's name to most people, I think they'd be able to tell you they were on Big Brother.

Colbert-Bump 25-06-2015 02:07 AM
Legends Hall Of Fame

1. Jade
2. Nikki
3. Nasty Nick
4. Brian Dowling
5. Nadia

Jack_ 25-06-2015 02:10 AM
I considered putting Nick on the list but 15 years later I don't think many people would know who he is over people like Brian and Pete.

And outside of the Big Brother family I bet of the people who know who Nikki and Jade are, only half of them know Nadia.

LukeB 25-06-2015 02:13 AM
Would anyone say Grace is a BB legend? like her eviction is one of the most iconic evictions we have seen imo

Jake. 25-06-2015 02:14 AM
Grace is remembered, not a 'legend' though because people wouldn't associate the show with her

Daniel. 25-06-2015 02:16 AM
Grace is a legend imo

Daniel. 25-06-2015 02:16 AM
And Nikki is a legend, Helen is a vile bully.

Colbert-Bump 25-06-2015 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7925491)
I considered putting Nick on the list but 15 years later I don't think many people would know who he is over people like Brian and Pete.
Nasty Nick getting booted out of Big Brother was MASSIVE. It was featured on all the news channels and he had to do a press conference with the media and he got treated like a serial killer. Trust me, Nick Bateman made Big Brother.

Marsh. 25-06-2015 02:17 AM
I think many people would come before Pete, who people would only recognise if the name was coupled with Nikki's.

And Brian Belo is several places down below the likes of Makosi, Nadia, Dowling etc. Even "Nasty Nick" would conjure up memories.

the truth 25-06-2015 02:26 AM
nasty nick nikki and brian dowling are the biggest BB legends of all time.....jade goody was as famous maybe more so but for many bad reasons too , bri belo and and craig phillips was great and gave all his winnings to his disabled sister
makosi was memorable for 2 enormous reasons

celebrity wise its johnny mac all the way

Marsh. 25-06-2015 02:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7925524)
celebrity wise its johnny mac all the way
Who?

Jack_ 25-06-2015 02:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7925499)
Would anyone say Grace is a BB legend? like her eviction is one of the most iconic evictions we have seen imo
Nah, perhaps in Big Brother circles but outside of it I doubt anyone knows who she is

Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump (Post 7925508)
Nasty Nick getting booted out of Big Brother was MASSIVE. It was featured on all the news channels and he had to do a press conference with the media and he got treated like a serial killer. Trust me, Nick Bateman made Big Brother.
I'm fully aware of how big it was. My point is that 15 years on, I very much doubt he'd be remembered over someone like Brian Belo who had cameo appearances on countless shows post-Big Brother and is much more fresh in people's memories (8 years as compared to almost double that)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7925510)
I think many people would come before Pete, who people would only recognise if the name was coupled with Nikki's.

And Brian Belo is several places down below the likes of Makosi, Nadia, Dowling etc. Even "Nasty Nick" would conjure up memories.
I honestly don't, they may need a bit of pushing, i.e. 'the guy with tourettes' but I still think people would know who he was.

I very much doubt anyone remembers who Makosi is, unfortunately. On the rare occasion that someone in real life talks to me about Big Brother and asks me what my favourite series is/who my favourite housemate is and I mention Makosi, every response is 'who?' and even then 'the series before Nikki and Pete with like Anthony, Maxwell, Derek, Kinga etc etc' just provokes a look of confusion. I genuinely think most people's memories of Big Brother doesn't stretch much further back than Big Brother 7, hence why most people remember Nikki and Pete, and why Brian Belo as the series following that is also well known.

Marsh. 25-06-2015 02:30 AM
Oh actually, I'd put Chantelle on the list too. If only for being in a CBB series she's a very memorable housemate.

Jack_ 25-06-2015 02:31 AM
Chantelle I agree with.

Marsh. 25-06-2015 02:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7925536)
Nah, perhaps in Big Brother circles but outside of it I doubt anyone knows who she is



I'm fully aware of how big it was. My point is that 15 years on, I very much doubt he'd be remembered over someone like Brian Belo who had cameo appearances on countless shows post-Big Brother and is much more fresh in people's memories (8 years as compared to almost double that)



I honestly don't, they may need a bit of pushing, i.e. 'the guy with tourettes' but I still think people would know who he was.

I very much doubt anyone remembers who Makosi is, unfortunately. On the rare occasion that someone in real life talks to me about Big Brother and asks me what my favourite series is/who my favourite housemate is and I mention Makosi, every response is 'who?' and even then 'the series before Nikki and Pete with like Anthony, Maxwell, Derek, Kinga etc etc' just provokes a look of confusion. I genuinely think most people's memories of Big Brother doesn't stretch much further back than Big Brother 7, hence why most people remember Nikki and Pete, and why Brian Belo as the series following that is also well known.
Define "well known" because it's the people who come after BB7 (and coincidentally after the race row) who are not well known nor remembered in my experience.

I'd say Josie Gibson is the last regular housemate to be put alongside housemates from the first 7 series. Even then it's probably because of the whole 'last ever' series giving the show one last boost in the media spotlight.

As for Nasty Nick, I don't think you would need much of a memory to stretch 15 years ago to remember the daft scandal BB produced over cheating nasty nick. Even if he's not remembered as vividly as Nikki (who let's face it hasn't bogged off for more than 5 minutes at a time) he would still be remembered.

LukeB 25-06-2015 02:33 AM
Chantelle I agree with that :love:

It's mad to think she auditioned to be in BB7(personally i couldn't see her in that series tbh) well it's not mad but you know what i mean, I'm too tired to explain

Colbert-Bump 25-06-2015 02:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7925546)
Chantelle I agree with that :love:

It's mad to think she auditioned to be in BB7(personally i couldn't see her in that series tbh) well it's not mad but you know what i mean, I'm too tired to explain
It was BB6.

the truth 25-06-2015 02:34 AM
chantelle and Helen from bb2


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