The Hypocrisy Of Joel Continually Getting Involved Between Two Other People
 

How come no one has said anything about Joel constantly getting involved between Nick and Harry ?

sticking the boot in further by taking the side of the "betrayer and constant putter down of her,Nick".

Joel does this in a cold manner backing the one who has constantly talked down to Harry

and constantly went off to lie not tell the full truth of what went on

to rest and of course to the public at home who he knows is watching.

Harry however yes,it was hypocritical,bur that was only mentioned

cause it was an excuse to target her something Nick quickly took advantage of

just an excuse to have a go at her.

And even if it was hypocritical it was done from passion and for standing up for someone

who is either a friend or someone she cares about because she thinks Chloe has good values

(which she does)

and Joel's continual putting down of Harry further by taking the side of the disrespectful and constant potter down of her

and betrayer Nick is cold and done from a selfish unnatural position

just like all Tories.

I didn't see it that way and he was right as to her staying in the garden all the time too.
he tried to talk to her, she wouldn't and didn't want to listen.

He is admittedly closer to Nick so will speak more for him than against him but he has pulled Nick up too on his relationship with Harry and the time he wastes on that connection too.

unlike harry he hasn't gone ballistic about demanding everyone stays out of everyone elses business so hes not a hypocrite. besides what the heck else is there to do in there all day everyday?

Really good points.

I wish people would give Joel his proper title, he isn't a tory MP, he is a junior community worker with no affiliation to the Tory party in any way shape or form. Its a scam he is driving to make himself look current. His pushy mummy is driving his fame bus for her own aims and its all pretty sad to see that he has conned people into believing he is the next political big hope. He is just a kid with a dream and a pushy mummy behind him telling him he is the chosen one.

lol youre scraping a non existent barrel now ....so lets all detest a 19 year old kid with dreams..lol....desperado you've got to come to your senses.....

He is a Conservative Councillor in Cardiff and I understand secretary of the Conservative branch party there too.
He has hopes of becoming an MP or a member of the Welsh assembly which I feel pretty sure he will be successful at too.

Being fair to him, he has done a fair bit already in his only 19 years of life as to achievements.
Things like that don't just fall into your lap, you need dedication.

Post some proof instead of spouting personal innuendos, or maybe just shut up and keep us all happy. Some of your posts are so blatantly designed to bait that its a wonder you haven't been pulled up.

He is not a registered councillor, he is a community helper, please get things right.

I find joel a cringe fest. He is a slimy toad with a superiority complex. I find him thoroughly unlikeable.

The information below come I think from the Daily Mirror printed in only May this year actually.
You can look it up for yourself,hardly just a community worker if he is elected, you cannot be a councillor if you are not elected by voters.


A teenage Tory councillor has been announced as a contestant in Big Brother 2015.

At just 19 years old, Joel Williams is the youngest Conservative councillor in Wales, and has ambitions to be Prime Minister one day.

He works for Cardiff North MP Craig Williams (no relation) as a secretary.

But while he hasn't made it to the House of Commons just yet, he's making do with the Big Brother house.

He's not and never has been a councillor in Cardiff see link here

http://cardiff.moderngov.co.uk/mgMem...&VW=LIST&PIC=0

In fact he has never even stood for election in any Cardiff ward. He doesn't even live in Cardiff for that matter,

Actually, Joel is the President of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, which means he's in charge of the Queen and the Bank of England. The housemates told me this, so it must be true. We know how informed they all are about such matters.

He is a Community Councillor, which is the same thing as an English Parish or Town Councillor.

You're getting confused between County and District Councillors as opposed to Parish and Town Councillors.

No I'm not, just for clarification Joel is not and never has been a councillor, not in Cardiff, Wales nor any other part of the UK HTH

Then how, please tell me, are there community council minutes online with his name on them, hmmm?

Livia and others seem very convincing and have even got evidence to support their views, so far the "he is not a councillor" side is only presenting their opinions which seems like foot stamping to me. Do you on the "he is NOT one" have ANYTHING except your unproven opinions which go against the provided evidence to prove what you say?

That would really help you to seem believable.

Actually, that's BS. They all go around claiming to be close to Nick, calling him "mate" and blaming first Jade, and now Harry for Nick not spending as much time with them as he used to.

Used to when?

First half a day since entering the house? They are all imbeciles if they think that makes him a mate. Jade and Harry were closest people to Nick in the house. Joel and Jack are two a$$holes who care nothing for him but will bitch anyway, because they can't stand the thought that someone would prefer to spend time with some girl than with them.

Another piece of BS.

Harry interfered when she perceived Jack shouting at her (and gods know why she thinks this) friend Chloe.

Jack, Joel, Danny, Nikki and co, interfered to Nick's face, behind Harry's back, telling him how she's bad for him (well, correction, not Nikki, she did this in front of her, not that it's much better as Harry did nothing to deserve this)

So you are comparing someone sticking up to her perceived friend as same as slagging someone off behind their back, or being openly rude to their faces?

Yes, I get it, it's confusing because Nick who's supposed to stick up for her repeatedly said "how dare you" as if those are the same things.

But actually, Nick has never, not even once stuck up for her. The only difference he was now against her, to her face, which has to be first time for him. And reason he's against her to her face is: She didn't approve of his decision to buy his way into finale. It's easy for him to flip like that cause all housemates love him and can't stand her. If he turns on her they'll all (not just a$$hole, I mean Joel) will side with him. After all, she's a girl who prefers solitude than listening to them slime all over each other.

Funny thing here is, we all wanted Nick to find true friend after seeing his VT. And he did. For a while. But he betrayed her for house full of ppl who don't even know him, and absolutely don't give a damn for him or anyone else.

The boy's too dumb to function.

Of course he didn't insist everyone stay out of his business for two main reasons:
1) if he were to stay out everyone else's business, he'd have absolutely nothing to do inside that house :gossip:
2) he has absolutely no business of his own that he'd want someone to stay out of. (I hate I have to say this, but) Jack's right about one thing, Joel makes crap questions up to make him self look good, and that's all he did since he entered the house. His little "talk show" with his little "oh, he's so wise for his age" philosophical questions.

No one in that house even knows him. We don't know him. After 2+ months of watching him, we know nothing about him.

How the hell do you get into his business when that pretend is all he ever does?

and also what I said in previous message.

Anyone can become a Tory Councillor so long as they are a British subject/citizen, 18 years or over and are on the electoral register for that specific area.

Are you really, really asking this about a politician???

This is true. There is something irritatingly pompous about Joel which even the 'ah, but he's young' argument can't quite negate. It's becoming more apparent now that we've had to put up with it for so many weeks.

Short stuff
 

This post is total rubbish. Take it from one who knows. Just Google Joel and you will see how totally wrong you are. A very hard working,honest and committed young man. Very highly thought of and valued by his community. Runs his own business, full time student, school governor, community councillor and Secretary of his local Conservative Association. Joel is where he is not because of his mother (who by the way us just an ordinary supportive Mum) but by his own commitment and the respect and trust people have in him. Do your research before you post such ridiculous, ill informed comments!