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zakman440 29-08-2015 11:25 PM

Scoop cautioned for using the 'n' word.
 
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Celebrity Big Brother summer 2015 bosses have “advised” Fatman Scoop over his use of the ‘n’ word following a measured discussion with James Hill about Hulk Hogan’s racism scandal.

Yesterday, some of the housemates were talking remarks made by the wrestler in his leaked sex tape, when Scoop offered his thoughts on the highly offensive term.

“I’m black, I’ll say it. N****r isn’t a race, it’s a mentality,” he said. “I know n****rs of every nationality, it’s a mentality, the way you act, the way you behave, the way you carry yourself. It’s not a race.”

As Sherrie Hewson and Stevi Ritchie looked on awkwardly, James asked the rapper for his thoughts on the ‘n’ word in music. “I don’t for one minute agree with white people calling black people that, but how come it’s alright that black people can call black people that in music, then as soon as a white man calls a black man it, there’s such a massive thing?” he wondered.

“This is my personal opinion, music has made it acceptable to say the world n***r in everything,” Scoop claimed. “If you put it in popular music, you cannot turn around and say, ‘hold up, don’t say it’.

“But let’s get deeper, there are different classes of n****r. It’s like, ‘yo n***a, what’s going on man, you good, you cool, you’re my n***a. Then there’s n***r, which is like, ‘you’re a ****ing n****r’, really really racist. It’s how you say it to me, the voice, the inflection, everything.”

“Young people who listen to this music think it’s acceptable as you promote it,” observed James.

“That’s why you can’t argue with it,” agreed Scoop. “It’s become a term of endearment to most people. We’ve made it in to a positive word, but it’s all in the way you put it across.”

Despite the considered nature of the conversation, Scoop was called to the Diary Room today to be reminded of the Big Brother rules – although he wasn’t issued with an official warning.

“While Big Brother completely understands the context of the conversation you were having, that word and term will be seen as offensive to many of Big Brother’s viewers, so Big Brother is advising you to refrain from using that word,” said the all-seeing eye.

“I understand exactly what you’re saying,” accepted Scoop. “To me it’s not offensive, depending on the person. I do understand this is a situation where you have viewers and stuff like that, but as a black man I felt like I was in a unique position to explain to people what it is.”

Read more: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb16/news/08...-hogan-scandal
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Denver 29-08-2015 11:27 PM

We already saw it.

I understand where he was coming from but i think it was the right decision to caution him

Rob! 29-08-2015 11:29 PM

I thought BB were perfectly reasonable tbh.

reece(: 29-08-2015 11:32 PM

Stupid IMO.

Pete. 29-08-2015 11:37 PM

He was just explaining himself in the conversation though. I'm not surprised about what the Ofcom fearing production team do at this point but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually did complain because of Scoop.

armand.kay 29-08-2015 11:38 PM

Stupid.

Jordan. 29-08-2015 11:39 PM

They could have just not aired it but obviously saw it as another chance to cause controversy

Stevep 29-08-2015 11:40 PM

Ridiculous, people constantly rave on about 'free speech' and here we have a guy having a sensible and mature discussion about a sensitive subject and he gets cautioned.

There is no such thing as free speech.

reece(: 29-08-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevep (Post 8100678)
Ridiculous, people constantly rave on about 'free speech' and here we have a guy having a sensible and mature discussion about a sensitive subject and he gets cautioned.

There is no such thing as free speech.

The show is giving into the PC complainers.

The Carol warning was just as ridiculous.

Brother Leon 30-08-2015 12:43 AM

So stupid. He was asked as a black person his opinion on the word and he answered. It's a actual interesting conversation even.

Headie 30-08-2015 12:44 AM

This was in the last episode. After seeing it in the context of the conversation, this warning was stupid as hell.

OZBB 30-08-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 8100740)
So stupid. He was asked as a black person his opinion on the word and he answered. It's a actual interesting conversation even.

And this highlights the VERY dangerous problem with PCness.

It stifles free speech.

You've seen one of THE WORST examples now - it's stopped people from even having a conversation that MAY diffuse misunderstanding and misconceptions in the future.

Have you(not aimed at the quoted poster, but ANYBODY reading this)ever accused somebody, knee-jerk style, of being "racist", just because you may have overheard them discussing something in a racial context?

If so, YOU contributed, albeit in a small way, to THIS situation.

Headie 30-08-2015 01:09 AM



Clock em Mutha P :clap1:

Headie 30-08-2015 01:09 AM



Clock em Mutha P :clap1:

Jason. 30-08-2015 01:11 AM

I thought Nick's ejection in BB1 was the most controversial ejection ever?

Jordan. 30-08-2015 01:15 AM

Um @ Matthew relating the two

Jason. 30-08-2015 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 8100791)
Um @ Matthew relating the two

He certainly isn't as "intelligent" as he makes out.

Will. 30-08-2015 01:26 AM

Who remembers Jemima warning for confessing she hasn't dated many Mediterranean men, there not her type.

Jason. 30-08-2015 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Will1999 (Post 8100810)
Who remembers Jemima warning for confessing she hasn't dated many Mediterranean men, there not her type.

Gina faking expiriencing racism. How can I forget

Macie Lightfoot 30-08-2015 02:12 AM

alol I mean there's definitely some racial subtext to Jemima saying that she isn't attracted to black guys but mixed race is okay, and then telling Gina that she should understand bc she probably doesn't find white guys attracted.

And yes, what a surprise, Matthew still sucks. I for one am shocked.

armand.kay 30-08-2015 02:14 AM

Saying you wouldn't go out with a black man then assuming that Gina wouldn't go out with a white man (despite her bf at the time being white) is a bit racist. That's just my opinion on the matter
http://i.imgur.com/h3jBAIf.gif

Mystic Mock 30-08-2015 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8100839)
alol I mean there's definitely some racial subtext to Jemima saying that she isn't attracted to black guys but mixed race is okay, and then telling Gina that she should understand bc she probably doesn't find white guys attracted.

And yes, what a surprise, Matthew still sucks. I for one am shocked.

Not fancying a group of people does not make Jemima racist.

And tbh Scoop and James was having an adult conversation that was reasonable at the same time, why does Ch5 want to stifle that on a show based on people interacting with each other?

lostalex 30-08-2015 02:44 AM

It was ridiculous. he didn't call someone the n-word. if he had called someone the N-word then i agree he should be cautioned, but he was just explaining his feelings about it as a black man. if i was talking about the use of the word ****** or gay i wouldn't think it was fair to caution me.

Although the way they cautioned him seemed like the producers knew it wasn't really a big deal, and they didn't give him an official warning so, I guess that's okay. They were just worrying about the over sensivitve idiots that will complain to ofcom over any thing.

Macie Lightfoot 30-08-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8100845)
Not fancying a group of people does not make Jemima racist.

I didn't say that it makes Jemima racist but saying that you're not attracted to black guys and then immediately following that up by saying that mixed race is okay... like that's clearly ridiculously racially insensitive at minimum.

Northern Monkey 30-08-2015 03:15 AM

Anyone else would have got warned for it so it's only fair that Scoop did.One rule for everybody.


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