Tim Farron (new libdem leader) says that LibDems are 'more relevant than ever'
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032zwy8

I actually quite like this guy tbh, prefer Corbyn though.

To him they are relevant, I doubt to many others,they have an awful lot of baggage from their time in shared govt which they need to shake off before people will even listen to them again,let alone start to think of supporting them in any numbers again.

I like Tim Farron but he has a massive task on his hands with this party now.

Its the voters that will decide if they are relevant, much will depend on how things pan out with Corbyn and if he lasts more than a few months. I think people need some viable alternative to the Conservatives, and if Corbyn is still in place come the next election then either the Lib Dems, UKIP or a n other party yet to be formed will constitute the next alternative

They're pretty much non-existent at this point, they ruined any slight momentum they had by ****ting on their values in order to get into bed with the Tories.

Tim has a hell of a lot of work to do if he wants to win back any seats.

He has to say that:laugh:
He's trying to create a new image and disassociate with the mess of an image that the party has.

Problem for the Lib Dems is that they plumped for a left wing leader thinking that Labour would go centrist/Blairite and that they would be able to move to the left of Labour and occupy that ground again. Instead Labour have gone hard left which leaves the centre open for the Tories and it leaves the Lib Dems a bit directionless again

Before Corbyn I thought the Lib Dems had become a bit redundant because both parties embraced liberalism and sought to occupy the moderate centre. Now that Labour have made the choice that they have I think there could be a place for the Lib Dems again: but not under Farron. I find him very unimpressive with unclear principles and no real idea about how to rejuvenate the party. John Rentoul wrote a good article on it today: