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Ashley. 13-11-2015 03:18 PM

Should the concept of Women raping Men be taken more seriously?
 
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She forced him to have sex. Rape doesn't have to include violence. We have no control over how our bodies react to sexual stimulation. He could have been drugged, or sleeping, or many other things.
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Being drugged or being manipulated/coerced into having sex. Women can orgasm and conceive during a rape, [just like] men can get erections during a rape. The human body is a strange thing.
The concept seems to be challenged, like this:
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Okay, let’s be real. Unless you’re tied down or something, it’s likely that you could have escaped. Also, to the commenters, I’d say being raped by a male is definitely more traumatic than the reverse.
People seem to believe that it's easier for men to escape a rape, and have more control if a women is raping them, and therefore it shouldn't be taken too seriously. We get silly comments like "he should've enjoyed it". I'm not sure why, but people do find it hard to believe that women rape men, and it can leave several men too scared to own up to it in fear of looking weak / losing masculinity.

Liam- 13-11-2015 03:22 PM

Yes, all forms of rape should be taken seriously, no matter which gender is on the receiving end of it.

Niamh. 13-11-2015 03:23 PM

You'd really need to give a specific example tbf I mean physically speaking atleast it would be alot more difficult for a woman to rape a man, that's pretty much a fact but that's not to say it never occurs and of course if it does they should be given as much sympathy as a female victim imo

Lostie! 13-11-2015 03:24 PM

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I’d say being raped by a male is definitely more traumatic than the reverse.
Is this person speaking from experience? Because otherwise, they have no right whatsoever to tell certain victims of sexual assault that their experience was "less traumatic".

Female on male violence needs to be treated more seriously in general to be honest, both sexual and non-sexual.

Mokka 13-11-2015 03:25 PM

Any incident where rape is involved should be taken seriously. We should take rape as a weapon of war seriously. We should also stop automatically assuming women who have been raped are only claiming to be raped to be vindictive against men.

Judicially, rape is to hard to prove for any victim.

Ashley. 13-11-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8283114)
Is this person speaking from experience? Because otherwise, they have no right whatsoever to tell certain victims of sexual assault that their experience was "less traumatic".

Female on male violence needs to be treated more seriously in general to be honest, both sexual and non-sexual.

I think the extremely ignorant "I'd say" at the beginning means that they have no idea what they're talking about.

I agree. There are several charities which focus on just women which I understand because these things are more likely to happen to women, but I feel men deserve a little more acknowledgement and a little more encouragement to come forward and get their own justice.

Firewire 13-11-2015 03:30 PM

Rape isn't just holding someone down and "having sex" with them which seems to be a huge misconception about it.

Jamie89 13-11-2015 03:32 PM

Yes it should be, but like people have pointed out it's to do with views on masculinity/femininity, and a lot of people just find it hard to imagine or believe.

It's kind of like the way male victims of domestic violence are sometimes ridiculed in the media.

If anyone is being attacked, regardless of gender, then it should definitely be taken seriously.

Edited to say: Isn't it true that in the eyes of the law a woman can't rape a man? I'm sure I've heard that, but I don't know if it really is the case? I think it's something to do with the technicality of rape requiring actual penetration?

Lostie! 13-11-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8283121)
I think the extremely ignorant "I'd say" at the beginning means that they have no idea what they're talking about.

I agree. There are several charities which focus on just women which I understand because these things are more likely to happen to women, but I feel men deserve a little more acknowledgement and a little more encouragement to come forward and get their own justice.

This isn't rape exactly but still a sexual assault, but there was a story in America a few years ago about a woman who castrated her husband when he filed for divorce. Anyway, they discussed it on The Talk (basically a US Loose Women) and they laughed about it. Sharon Osbourne (not that I expect decency from that piece of trash anyway) actually said "I think it's fabulous" and it was basically treated like an example of admirable feminism.

Assault on men is far too commonly treated as either a source of comedy or justifiable retribution for the crime of being a man.

Niamh. 13-11-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8283127)
Yes it should be, but like people have pointed out it's to do with views on masculinity/femininity, and a lot of people just find it hard to imagine or believe.

It's kind of like the way male victims of domestic violence are sometimes ridiculed in the media.

If anyone is being attacked, regardless of gender, then it should definitely be taken seriously.

yeah absolutely agree with that. Also I think family law needs to catch up with the changing times, atm it's very biassed in favour of mothers which probably was relevant years ago but not so much now

the truth 13-11-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8283133)
This isn't rape exactly but still a sexual assault, but there was a story in America a few years ago about a woman who castrated her husband when he filed for divorce. Anyway, they discussed it on The Talk (basically a US Loose Women) and they laughed about it. Sharon Osbourne (not that I expect decency from that piece of trash anyway) actually said "I think it's fabulous" and it was basically treated like an example of admirable feminism.

Assault on men is far too commonly treated as either a source of comedy or justifiable retribution for the crime of being a man.

100% true

Kizzy 13-11-2015 03:38 PM

What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

Firewire 13-11-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8283147)
What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

A woman drugging a man and then taking advantage = rape

There is no logistics involved in that.

Jamie89 13-11-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8283147)
What about the logistics? Sorry but I just can't see it.

The logistics of someone being sexually assaulted? I'm not sure what you want, a diagram?

Liam- 13-11-2015 03:41 PM

To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

Jamie89 13-11-2015 03:42 PM

We're assuming as well that a man would need to be drugged. There are examples of people being paralysed with fear, (mostly talking about situations where women are raped), but I suppose this couldn't happen to a man could it, because he's so macho right?

Firewire 13-11-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 8283161)
We're assuming as well that a man would need to be drugged. There are examples of people being paralysed with fear, (mostly talking about situations where women are raped), but I suppose this couldn't happen to a man could it, because he's so macho right?

It was merely an example to help her understand.

the truth 13-11-2015 03:45 PM

women have sliced off mens penises and 10000s have murdered men, so why not rape? its about how evil a person is, whether the man is shy or dominated or even too polite to say no they drug a man, fill him with booze or smash him across the face ....there are also cases of women being fitter / stronger....have you met army girls? theyre taught how to kill

the truth 13-11-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8283160)
To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

yes and its a lie

Niamh. 13-11-2015 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8283160)
To the women, doesn't the idea that 'only women can be raped because they're weak' not offend you?

No it doesn't offend me as physically speaking, for the most part we are weaker than men, also biologically speaking a man forcing a woman to have sex is easier than the other way around......again though I'm not saying female to male rape can't or doesn't happen, I would just imagine it's a lot less common. All victims of sexual abuse or rape have my sympathy though no matter which gender they are.

Firewire 13-11-2015 03:49 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...-project-dazed

But everyone ignored this and made him out to be an attention seeker

the truth 13-11-2015 03:49 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...aring-app.html

here are a lot of examples of women raping men

Jamie89 13-11-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 8283163)
It was merely an example to help her understand.

Yeah I know, I wasn't directing my comment at you :) It was more to gauge from Kizzy's side of things, why someone might not believe a man can be sexually attacked by a woman but without being drugged being part of the scenario

Ninastar 13-11-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8283111)
Yes, all forms of rape should be taken seriously, no matter which gender is on the receiving end of it.

basically

Mokka 13-11-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 8283177)
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014...-project-dazed

But everyone ignored this and made him out to be an attention seeker

Women are made out to be attention seekers as well when they look for justice for a rape...

It's the culture behind rape that is the issue here, not the gender that has been victimized


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