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Ashley. 09-12-2015 06:49 PM

Animals have no concept of Science
 
Isn't that weird? They're brought into this world and they haven't a clue what the **** they're doing, they're just eating grass or rolling around in mud. They have no concept of Death because they can't speak words to know what it means. They're just living. No worries. No stresses.

MB. 09-12-2015 06:50 PM

erm

(also people who can't speak English probably still know what death is)

JoshBB 09-12-2015 06:52 PM

at least they don't have to think about the tory government :worry:

Mokka 09-12-2015 06:54 PM

they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

Jamie89 09-12-2015 06:58 PM

Maybe they're thinking the same about us :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 09-12-2015 06:58 PM

very much like religionists

AnnieK 09-12-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8343176)
at least they don't have to think about the tory government :worry:

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Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter (Post 8343192)
very much like religionists

Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs :facepalm:

MB. 09-12-2015 07:17 PM

Donald Trump

Crimson Dynamo 09-12-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 8343265)
Really..........in chat and games????? Religion and politics... Ffs :facepalm:

yes, the thread is misplaced

Lostie! 09-12-2015 07:20 PM

I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

Crimson Dynamo 09-12-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frostie! (Post 8343288)
I believe they have a concept of death, personally.

of course they do

Ashley. 09-12-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppermintMokka (Post 8343181)
they have survival instincts... which precludes having a concept of death.

Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

T* 09-12-2015 08:12 PM

You can't speak animal though

Livia 09-12-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter (Post 8343192)
very much like religionists

Happy Hanukkah, Trumpet.

Ashley. 09-12-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleighmie (Post 8343191)
Maybe they're thinking the same about us :laugh:

I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Cal. 09-12-2015 08:48 PM

I always think stuff like this but different, like it's weird that my dogs literally just think about eating/barking at passing people/going for walks when we have so much to think about like they must have so much clarity.

Cal. 09-12-2015 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland (Post 8343523)
I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Well they do but it's just not in words

Mokka 09-12-2015 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland (Post 8343467)
Instinct lives in the subconscious mind, though. They have these survival instincts but I doubt they know why, it's just their bodies telling them what to do. Which I guess is Science, but it's not exactly a concept that they are aware of.

Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

Jamie89 09-12-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley in Wonderland (Post 8343523)
I wonder how they think. :think: They can't think things like "oh look there's my owner I'm going to go to her" :think:




Or can they

Are you stoned? :suspect:

kirklancaster 10-12-2015 07:04 AM

No one KNOWS what cognitive abilities animals have - or any other cerebral capabilities because we cannot communicate with them in any common language.

How does ANYONE know whether your dog is sat there thinking; "Stop munching down that second bag of crisps you fat ****, turn off the TV and take me for a walk"?

A lot of animals certainly seem to me to have a lot more common sense and intelligence than a lot of 'humans' - and they are certainly far less cruel and evil.

Mystic Mock 10-12-2015 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppermintMokka (Post 8343771)
Actually, there has been some great scientific studies done in the last decade proving that dogs have conscious and cognitive thoughts. The same type of research that has been done to chimps and apes to show their relatedness to us, and the traits we attribute to humans but that exist in other species.

I think that just because we have no way to be aware of what animals do consciously, does not mean they don't have conscious thoughts.

Exactly this, and they can communicate with each other to some degree so they understand a little bit more than most people would give them credit for.

bots 10-12-2015 07:57 AM

Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner :shrug:

Jamie89 10-12-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Elf On Strike (Post 8344518)
Elephants very much clearly know. They mourn when they lose a partner :shrug:

Since we're talking about how great animals are, let's take a moment to appreciate the otter...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y3EH5dzziHk/hqdefault.jpg

Holding hands so they don't drift apart :flutter:


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