John/Tiffany
 

On Live feed tonight John/Tiffany appear to be having a heated heart to heart in the bathroom. Not quite sure what started it off, but its nice to see the two of them behaving like adults, talking/listening without screeching, and getting others involved. Both them have gone up in my estimation.

I think it's something to do with Tiffany thinking john instigated the Steph thing,which he didn't that was gemma,tiffany needs to listen instead of shouting over him sometimes but yes they are still talking,I do think Gemma has poisoned Tiffany against john a bit,lets hope she is adult enough to take what he has said on board,not sure that is what its about but seems like it.

Hmmm, did you not see John taking all to do with the Steph/Jeremy thing the other night, talking to Steph in the kitchen and afterwards hanging around their bed while they were arguing, taking it all in? He was like a big nosy gooseberry.
Did you not see him in his cage tonight **** stirring it again about the 2 of them?
Gemma hasn't even mentioned their relationship in the last few days.

There was a few talking about it,plus John did not instigate it,Gemma did when she had her little lecture in the bedroom infront of everyone,but why am I bothering you don't like John so will always take the opposite side, BB also showed Steph saying exactly what John said she had.so call him what you like if it makes you feel better,he isnt't the instigator

Indeed in fact if anything he edited to make it sound less bad for Steph... Gemma is the one who started it all off against steph and got her two attack dogs to go at her

Not that I like Steph but really John has barely featured in this storyline or whatever it is.

I'm only posting what I've seen. Gemma hasn't said anything to Steph and Jeremy since she had a go at Steph a few nights ago, but John has been involving himself ever since - as much if not more than their friends Scotty T and Megan. Deny it if you must, but I know what I've seen. :shrug:

Gemma instigated the whole thing, nobody cared much till she made a public show of the whole affair in the bedroom (something she berated John for doing to darren)

Then her attack dogs took over as usual, Tiff got involved, Daniella ended up hating her (previously mates apparently) And even Megan went around mentioning it constantly granted mentioning how shed 'had enough and wasnt getting involved anymore' but still bringing it up all the bloody time.

John was just telling Jeremy what steph said in a conversation with him which he was spot on about and wasnt as tiff tried to say a lie at all.

Gemma is a clever girl when it comes to **** stirring she sows little seeds then sits back and enjoys the show, even Daniella pointed this out early on before she got sucked up gemmas backside.

:joker: You can't be serious.

...I didn't see livefeed but I have noticed that housemates have opened up to her..she's the only one really that has brought out some of Gemma's vulnerabilities or insecurities with the 'I'll never have children' talk'...there was so much negative about Tiffany at the beginning in ..well she must be giving off an aggressive/intimidating thing when they all wanted her to go/most of them...but she must give off a vibe of how caring and lovely she is as well...and the person to talk to in the more insecure moments...Mama Tiffany..:lovedup:...

Every time that guy tries to help people he is accused of being two faced ...it is ironic to say the least.....John clearly can see how Jeremy is being made to look a fool in front of all the viewing public and he's looking out for the lad ...he's just trying to protect a younger boy in the house because John knows he's more experienced and he can see Jeremy making errors of judgement because he's young .....I think it's a really nice thing to see and I think people who say it's a bad thing are totally wrong

One of yesterday's threads oh here posted a vid of Gemma twisting Tiffanys ear hole against Jeremy and then was joined by Megan where Gemma then further attacked both Jeremy and Steph... Gemma HAS been stirring the sh-t for Jeremy she just hasn't done it to his face ....open your eyes and your ears
She knows, the old cow does, that she's met her match in Steph and so she's stopped confronting her and has resorted to talking behind her back ....Gemma is the biggest coward in the house this year