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arista 26-01-2016 04:38 PM

Face Veil Row in UK Schools : Ofsted taking Control at last
 
Reported on all news and radio.

Strict Muslim Schools in trouble,
might be single sex schools

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...education.html

JoshBB 26-01-2016 04:45 PM

I think students need to be able to see the face of their teacher, so this is fine imo.

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2016 04:46 PM

why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

:facepalm:

arista 26-01-2016 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8463065)
why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

:facepalm:


New Labour Tony Blair's fault

Kizzy 26-01-2016 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8463065)
why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

:facepalm:


What a strange phrase for a self proclaimed atheist, all this religious jibber jabber has an unfortunate effect doesn't it? :(

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2016 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8463370)
What a strange phrase for a self proclaimed atheist, all this religious jibber jabber has an unfortunate effect doesn't it? :(

i was being ironic

innit

Kizzy 26-01-2016 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8463460)
i was being ironic

innit

Oh, I thought they'd gotten to you then ...phew.
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

Vicky. 26-01-2016 07:08 PM

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

DemolitionRed 26-01-2016 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463494)
I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

For security reasons?

Vicky. 26-01-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8463672)
For security reasons?

Mainly yeah..but also I do feel Muslim women are forced into wearing them sometimes too.

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463494)
I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

:clap1:

disgusting oppression and superstition of a cult

empire 26-01-2016 07:51 PM

its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2016 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empire (Post 8463685)
its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

:clap1:

Vicky. 26-01-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empire (Post 8463685)
its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2016 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463699)
I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such :laugh:

we should teach our children that all religions are cults and wrong, we should tell them why religions develops and teach them the best science we know

all children should be aware that ALL gods are false

DemolitionRed 26-01-2016 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463679)
Mainly yeah..but also I do feel Muslim women are forced into wearing them sometimes too.

I agree with you about the security issues. There has to be a time and place where women can be asked to downsize to the hijab (headscarf) for identification reasons. I also imagine it would be very difficult to read and write whilst wearing the burqa in school and quite difficult for the teacher to see if the school girl is actually paying attention.

I also think some women are forced to wear the burqa but a lot aren't and if we take away choice from the women who choose to wear it, that makes us as repressive as the husbands who force it on their wives.

rubymoo 27-01-2016 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463494)
I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

I agree with this^^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by empire (Post 8463685)
its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

And this^^^

I do however think that religion should be respected, but to me school is school they're there to learn.

I also think there needs to some sort of re-education for immigrants into our country, so that they understand our way of life and that everyone in this country has equal rights and freedom, if they can't abide by our rules then bye bye!

It's almost as if we are bending so far to the left, we're going to meet with the far right!

Ammi 27-01-2016 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463699)
I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such :laugh:

..it does actually Vick, focus on many religions/cultures etc in a lot of schools and has a focus on each religion covered of tolerance and non prejudice of all religions and cultures...

kirklancaster 27-01-2016 07:37 AM

ERROR

kirklancaster 27-01-2016 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463494)
I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Surprisingly perhaps :hehe: I agree with you.

jennyjuniper 27-01-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8463494)
I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

I do too.If people want to wear veils or burkahs then let them do it in a country where that is the norm.

DemolitionRed 27-01-2016 08:44 AM

I would still defend the right of any woman to decide for herself how she wants to dress, and to learn for herself why her religion requires such things and whether she thinks this is valid.

Banning a garment? Surely that just makes us look like the oppressors?

Regardless of our thoughts on this subject, I don't think 'now' is the right time. Muslims are really feeling the hate at the moment and Cameron appears to be piggybacking on that hate to rush in new rules.

Marsh. 27-01-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8463460)
i was being ironic

innit

But this is about Muslims.

sacred sister of allah would've been much more effective. :smug:

smudgie 27-01-2016 08:59 AM

Stick to the uniform code.
If it's a none Muslim school then it wouldn't normally be part of the uniform.
If on the other band it is a Muslim school then I can't see a problem with it.:shrug:

DemolitionRed 27-01-2016 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8465359)
Stick to the uniform code.
If it's a none Muslim school then it wouldn't normally be part of the uniform.
If on the other band it is a Muslim school then I can't see a problem with it.:shrug:

:clap1:


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