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MrWong 09-06-2016 09:44 AM

Ryan's 'blackface' halloween costume
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ume-photo.html

Ryan and Andrew to become great mates?

Niamh. 09-06-2016 09:46 AM

Oh Dear, I have a feeling Ryan is going to be one of the most hated HMs ever. He is so bloody annoying on top of it. I hate people who just talk over everyone constantly, it's a pet peeve of mine

*mazedsalv** 09-06-2016 09:46 AM

I don't like Ryan, but I think there's not anything "racist" really in that. This comment on Daily Mail rings true...

I'll be honest, I don't get it! Yesterday, I saw a video on facebook of 2 African Americans who had dressed up as the Wayan Brothers in White Chicks. They had painted themselves white, yet everyone found it hilarious and didn't make a single comment about it being racist. I just don't understand!!!

*mazedsalv** 09-06-2016 09:48 AM

Plus he was dressed up as "Looky Looky man", as he is carrying sunglasses. These guys come up to you in Magaluf, Ibiza and Kavos and try and sell you big yellow sunglasses.

Livia 09-06-2016 09:48 AM

Ryan already has my vote for worst housemate of the series... however...


Eddie Murphy made up to look like a white man. And not just a white man, a Jewish white man:



Am I insulted? No, not at all.

andybigbro 09-06-2016 09:52 AM

Yeah I don't see how it's racist? :shrug:

White chicks is the same thing really? :conf2:

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

Shaun 09-06-2016 09:53 AM

I've never really minded the whole concept of "dressing up as someone" so long as the intention were clear. For example, 'blacking up' to go as, say, Stevie Wonder for a fancy dress party is a lot less worrying / offensive than randomly doing it - and I can't say I get the reference Ryan is going for in his picture. Unless someone can explain the inspiration for it it does come across as little more than shock tactics or ignorance.

Oliver_W 09-06-2016 09:56 AM

I don't like Ryan, but I don't really care about blackface. If anything, SJWs whinging about it makes it worthwhile :E

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8701894)
I've never really minded the whole concept of "dressing up as someone" so long as the intention were clear. For example, 'blacking up' to go as, say, Stevie Wonder for a fancy dress party is a lot less worrying / offensive than randomly doing it - and I can't say I get the reference Ryan is going for in his picture. Unless someone can explain the inspiration for it it does come across as little more than shock tactics or ignorance.

As with your Stevie Wonder exmple, Ryan was dressing as a specific person - someone he met on holiday.

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 8701880)
I don't like Ryan, but I think there's not anything "racist" really in that. This comment on Daily Mail rings true...

I'll be honest, I don't get it! Yesterday, I saw a video on facebook of 2 African Americans who had dressed up as the Wayan Brothers in White Chicks. They had painted themselves white, yet everyone found it hilarious and didn't make a single comment about it being racist. I just don't understand!!!

:clap1: Totally agree, I dont see anything racist in it either .PC gone mad and double standards

*mazedsalv** 09-06-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 8701891)
Yeah I don't see how it's racist? :shrug:

White chicks is the same thing really? :conf2:

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

Cherie 09-06-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 8701911)
Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

Don't go talking sense now :fist:

Headie 09-06-2016 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 8701891)
Yeah I don't see how it's racist? :shrug:

White chicks is the same thing really? :conf2:

Don't get me wrong I don't like him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 8701911)
Exactly, White Chicks humor is about 2 black men dressing and trying to act like 2 white teens.

Reverse that, not only would the film not be popular, the producers and the cast would be lynched.

:facepalm:

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

Livia 09-06-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701974)
:facepalm:

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

Jews have been pretty oppressed over the years. Eddie Murphy still whited up and played a Jew. And I'm still not offended. Because it was a joke... a harmless joke not meant to offend anyone.

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701974)
:facepalm:

Do you know where "blackface" originated from and how it was used in the past, hence why it's offensive?

I'd love some evidence of "whiteface" being used to oppress an entire race back in the day.

Only offensive to some ,do you think white facing is offensive too ?

Headie 09-06-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8701978)
Jews have been pretty oppressed over the years. Eddie Murphy still whited up and played a Jew. And I'm still not offended. Because it was a joke... a harmless joke not meant to offend anyone.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8701981)
Only offensive to some ,do you think white facing is offensive too ?

I think it's a tricky one because everyone has different barriers of what they find offensive.

For example if one of my friends dressed up as me and but some brown paint on their body I'd be offended - it's like people only see you for a colour or a mock image and nothing else.

As for the whiteface, I can't say I do as I'm not white so I've never really thought about it, and don't really get offended on other peoples behalf. I guess you could say the same for the Jewish one, although I have no idea what that's about as I haven't heard of that until now.

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701987)
I think it's a tricky one because everyone has different barriers of what they find offensive.

For example if one of my friends dressed up as me and but some brown paint on their body I'd be offended - it's like people only see you for a colour or a mock image and nothing else.

As for the whiteface, I can't say I do as I'm not white so I've never really thought about it, and don't really get offended on other peoples behalf. I guess you could say the same for the Jewish one, although I have no idea what that's about as I haven't heard of that until now.

Same here

Crimson Dynamo 09-06-2016 10:35 AM

not offensive at all, his intention was not to belittle

and yes, i am minding my privilege

Headie 09-06-2016 10:35 AM

Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place :laugh:

Niamh. 09-06-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701995)
Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place :laugh:

:love:

drantb 09-06-2016 10:37 AM

I think he's too thick to have any realisation WHY people might find that offensive.

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701995)
Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place :laugh:

Never going to happen flowerpot, too many bigots out there ,black and white

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drantb (Post 8702001)
I think he's too thick to have any realisation WHY people might find that offensive.

I think the people who find it offensive are the thick ones

Cherie 09-06-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701995)
Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place :laugh:

No I don't think that at all Hayden, it's just some of the examples of racist behaviour are so ridiculous, it's a way of showing how ridiculous they are

andybigbro 09-06-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701995)
Without turning this into a massive debate, I do feel like some white people (this isn't directed at anyone on here) are so intent on trying to find something they can deem as 'racist against whites', almost as a way to counter the constant media coverage and discussion of racism against black, jews, asians, hispanics etc.

Why can't we all just get along? The world would be such a nicer place :laugh:

True, but then there are also certain people [again, not directed on here] who also jump on the racism bandwagon at any chance they can. :hee:

armand.kay 09-06-2016 11:12 AM

Meah with show like come fly with me and little Britain does the uk actually care that much about black face? Is it even a big deal here?

Saying that though that costume is a tad bit messy.


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