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Will. 25-06-2016 08:45 PM

Should 16-17 year olds been able to vote in the EU referendum?
 
Discuss...

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 08:45 PM

No.

Jack_ 25-06-2016 08:47 PM

Yes, and other than actually calling it in the first place (which should never have happened), David Cameron will rightly regret not granting them the vote.

Drew. 25-06-2016 08:47 PM

A lot of 16/17 year olds are intelligent enough and know more than a lot of older people who have voted, considering this vote is to do with our generations future then yes, they do deserve to vote

Jordan. 25-06-2016 08:48 PM

No

Shaun 25-06-2016 08:48 PM

Considering it'll affect them 50 years into the future, most certainly. Anyone who thinks all 16 year olds are stupid and uninformed need only look at the people who've just voted. If they can vote in Scottish elections they can vote in this.

GiRTh 25-06-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 8758121)
A lot of 16/17 year olds are intelligent enough and know more than a lot of older people who have voted, considering this vote is to do with our generations future then yes, they do deserve to vote

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8758124)
Considering it'll affect them 50 years into the future, most certainly. Anyone who thinks all 16 year olds are stupid and uninformed need only look at the people who've just voted. If they can vote in Scottish elections they can vote in this.

x2

Headie 25-06-2016 08:51 PM

Yes, myself and many of my friends are all very annoyed that we weren't allowed to vote because we're 17 yet we still have to pay adult price for transport tickets, concerts etc. How can you say we are not mature enough to decide on a vote yet we are mature enough to drive, work etc.?

Jordan. 25-06-2016 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8758120)
Yes, and other than actually calling it in the first place (which should never have happened), David Cameron will rightly regret not granting them the vote.

Doubt it would have had much affect. Didn't 18-24 have the lowest turnout?

DemolitionRed 25-06-2016 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8758127)
Yes, myself and many of my friends are all very annoyed that we weren't allowed to vote because we're 17 yet we still have to pay adult price for transport tickets, concerts etc. How can you say we are not mature enough to decide on a vote yet we are mature enough to drive, work etc.?

Crazy isn't it? You can get married, have children but you can't vote :conf:

Shaun 25-06-2016 08:54 PM

Yeah it only had 36% turnout. So this would probably only chuck in about 200,000 more voters under such turnouts. For all of the haranguing of the "pension vote" there could be a lot more done to engage young people.

Pete. 25-06-2016 08:59 PM

The voting age should be lowered permenantly IMO

bitontheslide 25-06-2016 09:03 PM

No

arista 25-06-2016 09:05 PM

No

Shaun 25-06-2016 09:06 PM

Good to see all these reasons why for the no side.

_Tom_ 25-06-2016 09:06 PM

No.

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8758120)
Yes, and other than actually calling it in the first place (which should never have happened), David Cameron will rightly regret not granting them the vote.

The whole "this referendum should never have happened" attitude is emblematic of the EU's approach to democracy.

jennyjuniper 25-06-2016 09:07 PM

No, not unless the voting age is 16/17.

EspeonBB 25-06-2016 09:10 PM

Considering you can get married and join the army at 16, you should be able to vote too

Calderyon 25-06-2016 09:18 PM

16-17 year olds can get married and join army in the UK?

Thatīs too young imo.

ThriceShy 25-06-2016 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Will. (Post 8758115)
Discuss...


Only 36% of 18-24 year olds voted.

They only have themselves to blame for all this.

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 09:37 PM

They are far too busy on facebook posting their selfies half naked on their beds to even consider getting out of their beds let alone going to vote.

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 09:39 PM

But if the politicians want to reach out to the youngsters then simply turn McDonalds into polling stations and offer them a free happy meal.

Scarlett. 25-06-2016 09:42 PM

Yes.

zakman440 25-06-2016 09:44 PM

Absolutely.

T* 25-06-2016 09:46 PM

YES.

MB. 25-06-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758365)
They are far too busy on facebook posting their selfies half naked on their beds to even consider getting out of their beds let alone going to vote.

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758370)
But if the politicians want to reach out to the youngsters then simply turn McDonalds into polling stations and offer them a free happy meal.

Good thing there aren't any 16 and 17 year olds on this forum for you to patronise further, Johnny

T* 25-06-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758365)
They are far too busy on facebook posting their selfies half naked on their beds to even consider getting out of their beds let alone going to vote.

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758370)
But if the politicians want to reach out to the youngsters then simply turn McDonalds into polling stations and offer them a free happy meal.

Thank you for tarring us with the same brush and potentially destroying our future :)

T* 25-06-2016 09:47 PM

2 years literally makes 0 difference

Shaun 25-06-2016 09:50 PM

Trust me Johnny there are plenty in their twenties and thirties doing that as well.

T* 25-06-2016 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EspeonBB (Post 8758185)
Considering you can get married and join the army at 16, you should be able to vote too

:clap1:

Liberty4eva 25-06-2016 09:53 PM

Not sure. Whatever the cut-off age it is going to be arbitrary. There are some 16 year olds wiser and better fit to vote than some 30 or 40 year olds. :shrug:

Johnnyuk123 25-06-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberty4eva (Post 8758457)
Not sure. Whatever the cut-off age it is going to be arbitrary. There are some 16 year olds wiser and better fit to vote than some 30 or 40 year olds. :shrug:

I agree there are some sensible teenagers. Tom for example. Great poster with great awareness of what is going on in the world. But having said that he is sadly outnumbered.

joeysteele 25-06-2016 10:06 PM

Absolutely yes and i said this right from the start.

They would have been able to vote in the general election in 2020 and for sure should have had the chance to have a say in their futures as to this referendum.

Alf 25-06-2016 10:30 PM

Some 16 year olds are still in High School, so what happens there?

Should we also send 16 year olds to an adult prison?

Toy Soldier 25-06-2016 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758538)
I agree there are some sensible teenagers. Tom for example. Great poster with great awareness of what is going on in the world. But having said that he is sadly outnumbered.

Honestly what bizarro-world is everyone else living in where they don't realise that these things apply to the majority of people of ALL AGES? Where are all of these intelligent, politically aware 40/50/60 year olds? Most of them are still pig ignorant, it has nothing to do with age.

Scarlett. 25-06-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8758538)
I agree there are some sensible over 40s. But having said that they are sadly outnumbered.

Fixed up your post

Ninastar 25-06-2016 10:47 PM

I personally don't think so. I think (most) 16 year olds are too easily pressured into just listening to what their friends are doing and I personally don't think (most) 16 year olds are mature enough to make a big decision like voting. I am a completely different person to what I was when I was 16, and I think that is pretty similar with most people.

Toy Soldier 25-06-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 8758682)
Fixed up your post

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There are some sensible humans. But having said that they are woefully outnumbered.
Fixed it more :hee:

hijaxers 25-06-2016 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8758130)
Crazy isn't it? You can get married, have children but you can't vote :conf:

Yes but its been the same for all of us, it actually got reduced from 21 to 18 when i got my first vote and i have voted ever since, getting a vote is a privilege and we should all use it , not just when it suits us.

Toy Soldier 25-06-2016 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8758693)
I personally don't think so. I think (most) 16 year olds are too easily pressured into just listening to what their friends are doing and I personally don't think (most) 16 year olds are mature enough to make a big decision like voting.

Again this applies to most people throughout their lives, not just teens.

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I am a completely different person to what I was when I was 16, and I think that is pretty similar with most people.
And IMO this is largely meaningless; I was more or less the same person at 21 as I was at 16 and I had been able to vote for 3 years. I am a completely different person now to who I was at 21... and I would say that's true for most 30+ year olds? Does that mean the voting age should be raised to 21+?


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