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zakman440 03-07-2016 04:31 PM

Nikki Grahame wants Big Brother UK to try the Canadian format
 
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Big Brother star Nikki Grahame has suggested that the Canadian format of the show should be tried out in the UK - complete with lots of gameplaying.

Nikki recently competed in Big Brother Canada, which is completely different to the UK series.

As with Big Brother USA, the show in Canada is much more tactical, with housemates encouraged to discuss nominations and scheme to evict their fellow housemates – and there is no public vote.

"It's so different," Nikki told Digital Spy. "It was a completely different show, if I'm honest. You have to go in there with a game plan, and here in the UK you get thrown out if you've got a game plan!

"So it was just so different, and if I was ever to do it again I'd be so much more prepared for it."

Nikki explained that she'd watched the second season of Big Brother Canada but added: "Until you're actually in there you just don't know how it's going to feel, and it was so, so stressful and so cut-throat.

"I honestly just didn't think I'd last, and I lasted two months, and then I was put in the Jury House [where evicted housemates live before picking the show's winner]. I mean, I did try and escape three times…"

Nikki also revealed that while she was "upset" when her fellow housemate Tim Dormer voted to evict her, she's forgiven everyone in the house – with one exception.

"Me and Tim [who previously appeared on Big Brother Australia] are really good friends and I'm going to go and visit him in Australia next year and we're going to go and do a mini road trip," she said.

"I've forgiven all of them - that's why I'm not watching it, because I don't want to have any bad feeling towards any of them… I've been speaking to all of them and I will stay in touch with all of them – except Maddie. Ugh. No, thank you. She is just pure poison."

And now Nikki thinks there should be a swap between Big Brother Canada and Big Brother UK so we get the different, tactical version of the show - complete with a Head of House who controls the nominations.

"I think it would really stir things up," she said. "I think they should do both! I think we should try the Big Brother UK in Canada and just see how it would work. We should swap them one year - I think that would be a great twist.

"I think our housemates would get the gist of it. Me and Tim were just thrown into it and for the first few weeks we actually couldn't get our heads round it. We were like, 'What is this?'

"It was so much more glitzy and glamorous and the costumes for the challenges - wow. But I mean, I was so rubbish in the challenges. The only thing I did was just wear the outfit and stand there or just lie there and have a little rest."

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ing-to-the-uk/
She's absolutely right - I thought that we were going to go for it this series but I'd totally be up for them trying it another year :clap1:.

NO to Big Brother Canada taking up our format though - they don't need to as their version is currently the best globally atm.

Jack_ 03-07-2016 04:37 PM

An international BB legend spilling the tea :clap1: this would've been the perfect series to trial it because let's be honest the game hasn't 'changed' at all

It's about time the UK format was consigned to the depths of history and the public weren't allowed to get their dirty moronic hands anywhere near control of evictions

Lostie! 03-07-2016 04:38 PM

No thank you :) :)

Oaker 03-07-2016 04:38 PM

If BBUK had the US format it would have 2 viewers

Samm 03-07-2016 04:39 PM

No, we have our own format that is simple and perfect as it is, it's only the production that are screwing the format up, however the last three evictions have shown that it works perfectly

Jack_ 03-07-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 8781252)
If BBUK had the US format it would have 2 viewers

So one more than it has now?

armand.kay 03-07-2016 04:40 PM

No.

armand.kay 03-07-2016 04:42 PM

With the right cast bbuk format will always be better than can and bbus.

Jack_ 03-07-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8781268)
With the right cast bbuk format will always be better than can and bbus.

Not at all, the US format is inherently more interesting and rewards housemates on merit as opposed to who's the most attractive, lucky enough to have a penis or who says or does nothing the entire series. Or a combination of all three

Jordan. 03-07-2016 04:44 PM

Imagine this series with the clique being allowed to openly plot to get Jayne, Andy, Evelyn etc out first. No ty.

Samm 03-07-2016 04:44 PM

Honestly it wouldn't make a difference at all? Bores like Alex will still stay because the housemates wouldn't nominate threats because the UK housemates have a completely different mind set since they've been watching the same format for 16 years. The HOH will just nominate the HMs that annoy them the most.

armand.kay 03-07-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8781273)
Not at all, the US format is inherently more interesting and rewards housemates on merit as opposed to who's the most attractive, lucky enough to have a penis or who says or does nothing the entire series. Or a combination of all three

I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK trumps any international seasons.

Jack_ 03-07-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 8781274)
Imagine this series with the clique being allowed to openly plot to get Jayne, Andy, Evelyn etc out first. No ty.

But conversely those same housemates would be able to plot against the 'clique' themselves, and Andy and Evelyn would be more than capable of winning multiple HoH's to put their alliance in control

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 8781277)
Honestly it wouldn't make a difference at all? Bores like Alex will still stay because the housemates wouldn't nominate threats because the UK housemates have a completely different mind set since they've been watching the same format for 16 years. The HOH will just nominate the HMs that annoy them the most.

Well there's an argument that nominating people under the US format for personal reasons is actually far more entertaining and produces a better season (see: BB6 US) so that's not really a negative and plus I wouldn't mind that happening because at least it would be on merit and their own fault rather than because some idiotic voters don't like the fact they're a woman or spoke in an episode

armand.kay 03-07-2016 04:54 PM

BBCAN 2 was terrible until the public intervened

Macie Lightfoot 03-07-2016 04:54 PM

The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU :shrug: I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.

Samm 03-07-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8781298)
I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK any international seasons.

This, I watch BBUS FOR BBUS and don't want another version over here

armand.kay 03-07-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8781301)
The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU :shrug: I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.

If they didn't stop the nomination talk in bb13 the season would of bee awful. All the outsiders would of been culled.

Jack_ 03-07-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8781298)
I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK any international seasons.

You get to know housemates in BBUS and BBCan far more than you do in BBUK because they have something we don't - live feed! I agree North American BB episode edits aren't as fleshed out as we have over here but that's because there's less of them, I wouldn't want to stop the daily shows even if we adopted their format and as a result you'd be able to develop characters better than they do in the US and Canada. The argument about 'endless gametalk' is totally false also, anyone who watches the feeds will know there's plenty of regular conversations because you cannot talk game for every minute of every day.

I don't think there's much difference between 'horrid' people making it further in different versions either, cause if you act like a twat you can make yourself a target under the US format. It isn't about who's more entertaining, it's about succeeding on merit. Entertaining housemates rarely do on BBUK because of the public vote and you generally only succeed with them if you're a man, attractive and never speak. This is irritating because the onus is on the viewers to keep the show afloat, under the US format I don't mind as much if a favourite of mine is evicted because it's at least usually their own fault

Marsh. 03-07-2016 05:01 PM

Except it's Big Brother UK, not Big Brother US or Canada.

Big Brother US has had the same format for 16 years and nobody's requesting it adopt another country's format.

The format is not the problem, the production is.

Marsh. 03-07-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8781313)
The argument about 'endless gametalk' is totally false also, anyone who watches the feeds will know there's plenty of regular conversations because you cannot talk game for every minute of every day.

It's not false, as we don't have live feeds anymore, so we'd be where we are now and have just the highlights shows which would be a series long version of the god awful first half of BB15 constantly talking about "Power" and "Veto" etc etc etc.

That's where the format isn't the issue, because the show would still be dragged down by awful production, regardless of the nominations/eviction process.

Jason. 03-07-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8781268)
With the right cast bbuk format will always be better than can and bbus.

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8781298)
I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK trumps any international seasons.

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8781314)
Except it's Big Brother UK, not Big Brother US or Canada.

Big Brother US has had the same format for 16 years and nobody's requesting it adopt another country's format.

The format is not the problem, the production is.

All of this. ^^^

croft 03-07-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 8781274)
Imagine this series with the clique being allowed to openly plot to get Jayne, Andy, Evelyn etc out first. No ty.

Oh no... you're so wrong! Competitions change the whole dynamic! The clique my try to plot, but if their not Head of household, or win Veto, or any other comp, they will have some guns aimed at them. :dance:

That's why the format in the USA is great... it's not about popularity only or just about comp. You need to be strategic.

And if UK doesn't wanna copy the USA/CAN model in full, they should at least copy Brazil's where there is still HoH and other competitions that give chance for players to do something and create conflict. In Spain they also have some major **** stirring dynamics that always bring the drama.

I'm so tired of this beauty pageant and miss congeniality that BBUK has turned into...

Klingonz 03-07-2016 05:22 PM

No, no and NO.

T* 03-07-2016 05:24 PM

YASSSS

iloveaisleyne 03-07-2016 05:57 PM

If you like the BBCan format, watch BBCan instead of whining tbh


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