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arista 09-07-2016 10:37 AM

Government has Ruled NO 2nd Referendum
 
Government
Has said we must respect the voters




Bliss



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Mystic Mock 09-07-2016 10:50 AM

Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

Tom4784 09-07-2016 11:14 AM

Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

joeysteele 09-07-2016 11:59 AM

Perhaps it is all of Parliaments MPs who should actually be saying that via a vote held in the House of Commons,since this was an all party campaign as to both sides.
Not just the government's.

I thought part of the leave argument was to bring to the UK more sovereignty and democracy back to Parliament, not just hand all on a plate to existing government and ignoring all other Parties and MPs views.

Livia 09-07-2016 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8798992)
Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

Well, you know what to do next time there's an election, don't you Mock. Get off your arse and vote. It's a shame it's taken this to show people how important voting is, perhaps it'll end the apathy where young people voting is concerned.

joeysteele 09-07-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8798992)
Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

Who knows Mock, who knows.
It wasn't a feature last time so after this mess too of a EU vote result,I cannot see how they can force conditions on that now in the future as to a 2nd referendum.

I am also pleased that Ruth Davidson the leader of the Scottish Conservatives has said, that Westminster should not try to block a 2nd referendum vote in Scotland if it comes to pass through Holyrood.
That would be real and pure hypocrisy.

You had good reasons why you did not vote too, I know that, so please ignore lectures you may get.

Margaret Thatcher it was who believed that those who did not vote, gave consent to the status quo.
Love her or hate her, it is a pity we no longer have any politician like her now, one who really led her party and looked not only at things won and lost but how they were won or lost too.

A lot more voted when she was active in Politics too.

Livia 09-07-2016 12:22 PM

The EU result is only a mess to those who didn't want it. Sadly for them, not enough remainers voted. That's how it works.

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8799016)
Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

Rob! 09-07-2016 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8799016)
Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

joeysteele 09-07-2016 12:30 PM

So anyone voting Conservative in a general election and getting Labour one should just shut up and get on with it and not moan at the govt.

Likewise vice versa if those voting Labour end up with a Conservative one.
What an odd democracy that is, if your real concerns and worries have to be suppressed just because of a vote.

Whoever won this referendum should have been the one who got at least 50% of eligible voters for it.
Funny how conditions like that can be made to apply to Unions and strike action but not for a major decision as this was.

kirklancaster 09-07-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8799098)
no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1: Absolutely LT.

(p.s. I did not want to use just one emoticon, because I did not want you telling Marsh that I had given you the clap :hee:)

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8799100)
Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

do you mean all the 18-24s who could not be bothered to vote?

Rob! 09-07-2016 12:40 PM

Plus, try as I might I am yet to find anything or anyone who has actually pointed out any positives in this situation whatsoever? "Britain will be great again." Lovely. How?

Rob! 09-07-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8799120)
do you mean all the 18-24s who could not be bothered to vote?

No, I'm talking about the ones that could.

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 12:41 PM

64% of 18-24s did not vote

if anyone is looking for a scapegoat I give you them

Rob! 09-07-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8799125)
64% of 18-24s did not vote

if anyone is looking for a scapegoat I give you them

Good for them. It still doesn't answer the question about what is actually positive about this outcome.

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 12:42 PM

18-24: 36%
25-34: 58%
35-44: 72%
45-54: 75%
55-64: 81%
65+: 83%

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8799126)
Good for them. It still doesn't answer the question about what is actually positive about this outcome.

what are you looking for?

Tom4784 09-07-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8799098)
no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

Enough with the trolling, LT. It's very tiresome.

Tom4784 09-07-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8799100)
Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

But we at least get to say 'I told you so' when it all goes tits up.

Rob! 09-07-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8799128)
what are you looking for?

A single reason as to why this was a good idea?

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8799133)
A single reason as to why this was a good idea?

what advantages were you getting by our membership yourself?

Crimson Dynamo 09-07-2016 01:05 PM

his is a good pro con article

http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0

arista 09-07-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8798992)
Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?


Today Scotland is part of the UK

it up to Them to Join the €
Until then - they are Chicken


I have done a thread on that in Chat and Games

arista 09-07-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8799133)
A single reason as to why this was a good idea?


But all the Polling
and the bloody US President Bullying us
they thought they had it in the bag,


But so many
folks had waited YEARS for this

I knew the Result before 7AM that day
I could Feel it


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