Boring because they are boring not because the shows rigged
 

Luckily for me I don't think the show has been rigged for Bear to look good so I have enjoyed the show and haven't chosen to waste my time.
If viewers like Bear just cause they think the show is rigged for him to win then they are easily pleased and easily conned....and if viewers don't like Bear because they think the show was rigged for him to look good than it sounds to me like they are just sore losers.
The reason we've seen so much of Bear is because he has delivered what we expect from a highly competitive show...the reasons the bores haven't been shown is because they haven't delivered.
As soon as Katie stopped trying to fly under the radar BB aired it....As soon as Sam stopped being fake and proved who she really is BB aired it...sadly for them it's too little too late....
and as for Ricky, we are all still waiting

These " theory's " about the bores being misrepresented have been proved to be incorrect....it's not just viewers who think they have been boring, the housemates say the same thing too...
Sam and Ricky have been trying to sneak past any conflict and any participation in the show from day one....a lot of viewers think that way, Bear, Renee, Lewis, Heavy and other housemates also think that way and Big Brother obv think that way ....hence why they have not been considered entertaining enough or good enough to be given air time in preference to the other housemates like Bear, Renee, Frankie, Aubrey, Lewis, Heavy, Chloe, Saira etc.
To say the show was rigged for Bear to win is a cop out because it's not just BB and viewers like myself who think he's the heart of the show, the other housemates think it too.
The reason housemates were proud of Katie last night and were shocked by Sam last night is because last night is the first time theyve actually been real and finally started to play the game. There is no manipulation by BB. Sam, Ricky and Katie genuinely have not played the game and that is why we haven't seen them on screen.

I agree with most of your post regarding the bores not getting screen time because they have been boring.When they've actually done things worthy of being shown then we've seen it.Its a pitty that its taken Bear or Heavy D to actually get them some airtime.They've helped them out.Well maybe not Sam who came accross really badly when we saw her true colours.However i don't agree that there's been no manipulation.There's ALWAYS manipulation.BB have repeatedly covered things up and cut off diary room confrontations when they've 'calmed' the housemates down.Lewis and Marnie at times sound scripted etc etc

I have to agree with this. Although I can't stand Bear and find his antics boring, he is doing something. I'd imagine he's bored out of his skull in there. In fairness, even mature viewers don't want to see James and Samantha discussing gardening and their allotments.

Although, I will add that if there were more interesting tasks going on I'm sure they would contribute a lot more. The lack of tasks in the last two series has been disappointing.

I wonder about the point at which HMs become the "older" ones and what is meant by "mature".

I'm really (really :)) not having a dig at you, Paula, but the obsession some people seem to have with HM and viewers ages bothers me. It's like the fat-shaming thing - some seem to think it's okay to criticise people they perceive as "older", based on the assumption that they are boring and of less value than "younger" people.

I dislike Bear because hes obviously acting. He doesn't deserve fans because he's only tricked people into believing this persona.
You could see him at the end of last night calculating his chances, adding up whos left, who will go.. And probably realising oop, i better smash some more eggs on the ground tomorrow
He is ingenuine. He's researched past game plans and worked out that you could win by being a gob****e, being argumentative, getting in a showmance and dominating the airtime.. All hes missing is a redemption story where he realises hes a bad bad man and needs to change his ways and I have a feeling thats coming soon.
I dont think its rigged, I think hes earned (lack of a better word) the airtime by using this incredibly obvious gameplan, and i think hes won over his devoted fans by tricking them that its genuine.

Bear is extremely intelligent, maybe not academically but he is running rings around this lot, he's playing the game the only way you can in there-even Renee and Audry want him around to keep it 'interesting'

They know that the viewers would switch off if wasn't for him, shame HD went, not sure if that was fixed as he was riling all of the women up, who imho were playing the victim all he did with Katie was tell her, in a civil way that she was a 'no mark' - 'X Factor reject' her response was astounding- expletive after expletive then tired to take the moral high ground, a) Playing the victim b) casting HD as the aggressor. Way out of line. These bores are living in a parallel world, Sam thinking that she was the main stay of the show and had done the most to put Bear in his place. What? What planet are you on Sam? And as for thinking a) that getting your baps out in the Current Bun was some sort of art and that the you are the darling of the British Public, wake up and smell your pension love, you are a washed up- boring has been with the personality of an Amoeba and the looks of a 3 decade old newspaper - Sapia and wrinkled.

I have a hard time labeling someone as boring if I haven't seen what they're about or what they do as a housemate, unless I actually see them interacting with people on a daily basis in non forced scenarios, I can't make a judgement on their entertainment value, Bear has successfully made the show about himself, which is what he wanted and in doing so, he hasn't allowed anyone else the opportunity to be shown doing anything but react to him, so while I can't comprehensively label Ricky or Sam as boring, I can happily and willingly label Bear and his cock squad as boring, because they have been shown a lot and have never entertained me once, so I'd rather keep people around to see what they're like when not around a cloud of doom, than keep someone who actively bores me to death.

The true bores are the ones the producers feign over because they think they'll bring it ratings.

True bores are one dimensional and have no complexity, depth or life stories to them.

Good points, Reece. :)

There are actually no bores in there, all of them are opinionated and want to win, Heavy prodded a few and we saw true colours, if they got a bit more airtime they would be hanging themselves left right and centre, take Ricky and his guru for example :hee: it's not all about shouting, body language, a look, an irritation, Sam was being portrayed as a sweetie before Heavy prodded her inadvertently into revealing her contempt for Chloe. The show has been edited as the Bear show, they want an audience for ex on the beach clearly, and I fully expect a redemption storyline and a win for him.

Great point, Clootie. I'm thinking that to a lot of BB viewers, anyone over 30 should be decomposing quietly. In order to be "entertaining" you need to be under 30, can't handle your alcohol, have dubious sexual contact with a variety of people, have no self-control, ave no conversation other than sex and make a bloody nuisance of yourself.

I find it so strange when people say Bear hasn't allowed some of the others to shine ... .since when did they need Bears permission to do anything ?

THEY COULD be entertaining or funny but Bear won't let them.
THEY COULD make sure they stand out but Bear won't let them.
THEY COULD have their own opinion but Bear won't let them.
THEY COULD play the game but Bear won't let them.

No wonder some of em are out of work actors and singers....if standing at the back waiting for permission off someone else is how they compete there will always be some one stronger, more confident and more likely to get the part.

4 months to go before I am written off as a walking corpse then, great :umm2:

This kinda works both ways though in honesty. Anyone who supports the 'younger' (ie. more annoying) housemates have been written off as tweens, horny housewives and such.

Don't really understand this 'older/younger' divide thing fans are creating...it existed at first but its definitely not there now.

Well said Withano...the tears come tonight with the ex going in....all boxes ticked...and everyone falling for it :joker:

Also rather annoying is the insinuation that a certain group of viewers are so much cleverer than others, as they can 'see through' stuff while others all 'fall for it'. :shrug:

Your post reminded me of this, I didn't post it solely because of your post :p

Couldn't stand Helen but this was used so much for her too. I never saw this apparent 'redemption storyline' that apparently tricked less intelligent viewers into voting for her. I saw her mellow out ever so slightly but still be a ****ing cowbag..

Never really sits well with me to accuse all fans/dislikers of being bandwagon jumpers, more/less intelligent than others, 'easily amused' (overdone this series) and such. Much easier and less stressful to think that...shock horror, everyone views things differently rather than it being anything about intelligence or whatnot :joker:

Some people find trainspotting exciting, others don't. Its supposed to be a show looking at human interactions, so there should be a wide variety of what people find interesting and entertaining. BB is very much focussed on 1 or 2 particular aspects, and they just seem to want to get more controversial in those 1 or 2 areas with each passing series.

The current producers are really missing a trick, because 1 dimensional entertainment will always only have a limited audience. I have no idea why they bother putting the likes of james, ricky and sam in with a bunch like that, its so shallow and unimaginative i think.

The air time viewers see is 45 minutes a day but the air time the housemates see is 24 hours a day and they also say that these people have been dull and flown under the radar. Where do those opinions come from ?....the show isn't edited in favour of anyone for the housemates eyes.
When the Americans call it the Bear show it's not because it's been edited to make him look good. When Lewis and some others say Bear will win its not because they've seen his best bits on the Hi lights show. These people live with him and think he's the entertainment with no help from BB at all.

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As far as the producers are concerned, Bear is 'doing things', it doesn't really matter what things, but they're loud things so that means he's interesting to watch. He's the lowest common denominator. And he's the most likely to appeal to the tabloids probably. There are SO many reasons why he's getting the most airtime... but being an interesting person isn't one of them imo. He bores the **** out of me, sorry :laugh:

As to the age issue,that does not bother me in the slightest,I quite liked Grant actually and also Biggins until he got into bother with his comments.

However for me age is irrelevant, in my opinion,Ricky, who is one the younger ones in there is in fact one of all time most boring housemates ever on C/BB.

I agree - Bear has been fantastic but I think its rigged because Lewis should be out by now...Thats what I dont understand.

Thats exactly what I want!! Someone who is going to have a laugh whilst attempting entertain? Is this not why you are here?

No theres no comparison to Marco in this because Marco was not funny - however Bear is - maybe not to you but to a vast Majority he clearly is!!!

Remember what heavy d and bear where talking about, heavy said that people in their are just sitting around for their pay cheques, and playing it safe, and they would always hide in what they really have to say to peoples faces, I have felt that both marnie and lewis vote is rigged for them to stay, its been like that from day one. just another part of the bb script,

20% = vast majority?

And no, although I cant speak for everyone, I'd imagine, like me, most reality show fans like reality and therefore Bears fake persona is not what we're here for.

BIB why are the production only casting one or two Housemates with a personality? They knew when they picked Ricky, Sam, Katie, and Marnie that they wouldn't be very entertaining Housemates as they do more extensive personality checks on them than we get to see on an edited VT, yet the production still chose these people as they wanted to make Bear look good in comparison.

I actually don't hate Bear like a lot of TIBB members do, but I can understand the resentment that we've got yet another series of Ch5 BB that's lived off one Housemate on the highlights.