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DemolitionRed 27-11-2016 09:18 AM

Something else that slipped under the radar during the US elections
 
The British government rejects the UN document which claims UK welfare reforms are guilty of “grave and systematic violations” of disabled people’s rights.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37899305

Kizzy 27-11-2016 08:34 PM

Yes, I think that was a big reason for us being hauled out of the EU... They were investigating us for human rights violations :/

DemolitionRed 27-11-2016 09:20 PM

What makes it so bad is that it was clearly a conscious decision to target disabled people, as they could be portrayed as a drain on the rest of society. The last 6 years have put rights for disabled people back 50 years, which is nothing short of a national scandal which should be headline news on the television and in newspapers. That it isn't is nothing short of a disgrace.

Kizzy 27-11-2016 09:37 PM

Yup, disabled people serve no purpose and the elderly have served their purpose therefore they should do the right thing and off themselves.
Same with the homeless, poor and mentally ill, if they can't get their act together then...

Maru 28-11-2016 07:16 AM

Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

DemolitionRed 28-11-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9076817)
Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

Hi Maru

It comes under the 'World Health organization' division and is one of the six principle organs of the UN. The ICJ have an obligation to look into complaints about health and welfare of UN member states.

Kizzy 28-11-2016 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9076817)
Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

Why wouldn't they, is it not a benefit that the UN are self regulating? They are not 'outsiders'...We are united, as in states or kingdoms.

Maru 28-11-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9076852)
Hi Maru

It comes under the 'World Health organization' division and is one of the six principle organs of the UN. The ICJ have an obligation to look into complaints about health and welfare of UN member states.

I know we work with them on a lot of things diplomatically speaking, but didn't know they went as far as to conduct studies on all members... we learn something new everyday!

I haven't seen you around recently. Hope you are back to post!...

DemolitionRed 28-11-2016 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9077145)
I know we work with them on a lot of things diplomatically speaking, but didn't know they went as far as to conduct studies on all members... we learn something new everyday!

I haven't seen you around recently. Hope you are back to post!...

Thanks, I just needed a break from here for a while but yeah, I’m back for now.

joeysteele 28-11-2016 07:39 PM

This is a really strong report DemRed, you are right it got little attention at all.
That says a lot about the UK and this govt. really and it's a disgrace.

DemolitionRed 28-11-2016 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9077301)
This is a really strong report DemRed, you are right it got little attention at all.
That says a lot about the UK and this govt. really and it's a disgrace.

It does indeed Joey.

McDonnell pledges Labour will force government to debate UN ‘rights violations’ report. http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/11577-2/

user104658 28-11-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9077173)
Thanks, I just needed a break from here for a while but yeah, I’m back for now.

But the TiBB you've returned to isn't the TiBB you remember :worry:

DemolitionRed 29-11-2016 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9077416)
But the TiBB you've returned to isn't the TiBB you remember :worry:

Hi TS. I didn't leave because I didn't have confidence in my argument :hee:
but because, at least in this place, I'd lost the ability to ignore the trolls.


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