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nodisharmony 22-03-2007 08:25 PM

Davina McCall was not soft on Jade Goody, just because they share the same agent!
 
Davina McCall is in the Daily Mirror and makes it very clear that she was not soft on Jade Goody, just because they share the same agent.

Davina had no idea that it got so bad!

Here is the link to the Daily Mirror story 21/03/07

and the article below.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/tv/r...name_page.html




BROTHER BOTHER
21/03/2007
DAVINA, who is braced for her sex show to spark controversy, still can't believe the furore that followed the Jade Goody race row in the Celebrity Big Brother house.

"I've no idea how it got to be such an international issue," she says. "We've had bad rows in the house before, the Pete Burns and Traci Bingham one was horrific, but there wasn't the same outcry."

And she dismisses as "ludicrous" the charge that she was "soft" on Jade because they share an agent, saying: "I was as shocked by her behaviour as everyone else. I wanted to pull her up about it - and I did. I wanted the girls to be allowed to answer the accusations being thrown at them. And I was worried about the reaction they'd face leaving the house."

Psylocke 22-03-2007 08:36 PM

Pete Vs Traci should have been addressed too,i agree with that

spacebandit 22-03-2007 10:09 PM

The softest interviews she got were by other clients of John Noel.

Co-incidence or not ?

Of course not.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psylocke
Pete Vs Traci should have been addressed too,i agree with that
The Pete vs Traci incident wasn't so serious, as it was an argument on a reality show, which is made famous by arguments.

The significant difference, was, the "Race" issue.

If all the housemates in CBB Jan. were all white or all Indian

This never would have happened.
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Davina McCall had to do the interview with Jade Goody in very strange circumstances.

I am sure that she wanted it to be much different than this.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacebandit
The softest interviews she got were by other clients of John Noel.

Co-incidence or not ?

Of course not.
Can't work out your paranoia?? :conf::conf:

Ruth 23-03-2007 08:01 AM

Spacebandit is right. Of course Davina is going to say that it's rubbish. It would take a very naive person to believe Davina.

The Pete Burns/Traci Bingham issue should have been addressed.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
Spacebandit is right. Of course Davina is going to say that it's rubbish. It would take a very naive person to believe Davina.

The Pete Burns/Traci Bingham issue should have been addressed.
Your modesty speaks volumes, Ruth.

Glad that you can agree with the Spacebandit and also understand what Davina McCall is thinking.

I am not psychic actually, but I am aware that Big Brother is very happy with Davina and she actually has been invited back to do Big Brother 8.

But, if you feel that she is part of a corrupt society?

Write a lovely letter to Endemol and tell them what they are missing.

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I would personally say, that Davina McCall is not a corrupt celebrity presenter. She does a good job and naturally wouldn't want to have to deal with Jade Goody, without an audience watching.

She was told that she had to do this, as it was a safer option and she did what she could in those circumstances.

If you had prefered her to be more strict with Jade Goody, then you were disappointed. She wasn't. Get over it!!

Of course, you can always say that people are Naive, to say this.

WhooPs!!! you just did :whistle::whistle:

nodisharmony :angel:

Ruth 23-03-2007 08:16 AM

:rolleyes::sleep::sleep::sleep:

Ruth 23-03-2007 08:17 AM

You're not psychic, yet you claim to be able to know exactly what's going on Jade's head.

Get over it yourself.

GiRTh 23-03-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony


The significant difference, was, the "Race" issue.

If all the housemates in CBB Jan. were all white or all Indian

This never would have happened.
There you go again!!!!! You had to bring up 'race'.

This is a fairly obvious train of thought, but it's completely beside the point. I think I know what you're trying to say but if I post it, you'll certainly deny it. So, explain why you think this is a significant point.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony


The significant difference, was, the "Race" issue.

If all the housemates in CBB Jan. were all white or all Indian

This never would have happened.
There you go again!!!!! You had to bring up 'race'.

This is a fairly obvious train of thought, but it's completely beside the point. I think I know what you're trying to say but if I post it, you'll certainly deny it. So, explain why you think this is a significant point.
Errr, Let me think :conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:

Oh yes, Errrr, Gordon Brown in India.

All the Newspapers & the TV News at the time.

all the evidence and everything said and the many topics on this forum with (Race) in the title, I could go on & on, but I don't need to GiRTh, do I :cloud:

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
You're not psychic, yet you claim to be able to know exactly what's going on Jade's head.

Get over it yourself.
A typical response...:pat:

GiRTh 23-03-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
There you go again!!!!! You had to bring up 'race'.

This is a fairly obvious train of thought, but it's completely beside the point. I think I know what you're trying to say but if I post it, you'll certainly deny it. So, explain why you think this is a significant point.
Errr, Let me think :conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:

Oh yes, Errrr, Gordon Brown in India.

All the Newspapers & the TV News at the time.

all the evidence and everything said and the many topics on this forum with (Race) in the title, I could go on & on, but I don't need to GiRTh, do I :cloud:
You've failed to grasp the point, again. The question is - Why do you think it is relevant to state that if the house was made up of all white or Indian people then the 'race' issue would never have happened.

For an educated person you don't catch on too quickly.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
There you go again!!!!! You had to bring up 'race'.

This is a fairly obvious train of thought, but it's completely beside the point. I think I know what you're trying to say but if I post it, you'll certainly deny it. So, explain why you think this is a significant point.
Errr, Let me think :conf2::conf2::conf2::conf2:

Oh yes, Errrr, Gordon Brown in India.

All the Newspapers & the TV News at the time.

all the evidence and everything said and the many topics on this forum with (Race) in the title, I could go on & on, but I don't need to GiRTh, do I :cloud:
You've failed to grasp the point, again. The question is - Why do you think it is relevant to state that if the house was made up of all white or Indian people then the 'race' issue would never have happened.

For an educated person you don't catch on too quickly.
Because GiRTh, if they were all the same, there could be no possible racism.

Is that clear enough for you?

If an Indian woman says the word "poppodom" to another Indian woman, would you expect a furore?

If an English man says "White fool" to another English man, would you expect a furore?

Is that short and sweet enough for you GiRTh?

A simple answer to an even simplier minded

GiRTh 23-03-2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
You've failed to grasp the point, again. The question is - Why do you think it is relevant to state that if the house was made up of all white or Indian people then the 'race' issue would never have happened.

For an educated person you don't catch on too quickly.
Because GiRTh, if they were all the same, there could be no possible racism.

Is that clear enough for you?

If an Indian woman says the word "poppodom" to another Indian woman, would you expect a furore?

If an English man says "White fool" to another English man, would you expect a furore?

Is that short and sweet enough for you GiRTh?

A simple answer to an even simplier minded [/quote]It's insult time is it? Take a piece of advice, if you want to call someone simpler, at least spell it correctly.

My post was - and this is what I mean about you not catching on very quickly - why do you bring up such an obvious train of thought. Read it again and you'll see that I'm questioning why you're stating the obvious.

So, answer the question - Why are you stating the obvious and why do you continually bring up the subject of race and treat it in a dismissive manner.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony
You've failed to grasp the point, again. The question is - Why do you think it is relevant to state that if the house was made up of all white or Indian people then the 'race' issue would never have happened.

For an educated person you don't catch on too quickly.
Because GiRTh, if they were all the same, there could be no possible racism.

Is that clear enough for you?

If an Indian woman says the word "poppodom" to another Indian woman, would you expect a furore?

If an English man says "White fool" to another English man, would you expect a furore?

Is that short and sweet enough for you GiRTh?

A simple answer to an even simplier minded
It's insult time is it? Take a piece of advice, if you want to call someone simpler, at least spell it correctly.

My post was - and this is what I mean about you not catching on very quickly - why do you bring up such an obvious train of thought. Read it again and you'll see that I'm questioning why you're stating the obvious.

So, answer the question - Why are you stating the obvious and why do you continually bring up the subject of race and treat it in a dismissive manner. [/quote]

Regarding your comment:- "It's insult time is it?"

I would very much agree, that when it comes to insults against me, that you are in the top three!

I have been quite tactful and quite un-insulting in return generally. Check all your past posts for evidence of that.

I don't want to be blamed for inaccuracies, do I?
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If I choose to bring up "Race", it is because, this is why the three girls have been labelled racists by many people.

I am on here to defend them.

I am up against the prosecution and there are many of them, aren't there GiRTh.

I won't waffle on this occasion

Mrluvaluva 23-03-2007 11:47 AM

:sleep:

GiRTh 23-03-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Regarding your comment:- "It's insult time is it?"

I would very much agree, that when it comes to insults against me, that you are in the top three!

I have been quite tactful and quite un-insulting in return generally. Check all your past posts for evidence of that.

I don't want to be blamed for inaccuracies, do I?
I've twice called you racist on the forum because i believe you are. You've said nothing to change my thought but you keep bringing up the subject of race. When I call you on it - as I'm entitled to do - you accuse me of either over reacting or seeing things that aren't there. If they weren't there I wouldn't see them.
Quote:

If I choose to bring up "Race", it is because, this is why the three girls have been labelled racists by many people.

I am on here to defend them.

I am up against the prosecution and there are many of them, aren't there GiRTh.

I won't waffle on this occasion
The girls were also accused of bullying but you don't mention that anywhere near as much as you mention race. Are you obsessed with race? Why is it so important for you to remind us that if the people were of the same race there would not have been such a fuss?

Kyoushu 23-03-2007 11:57 AM

I think davina mccall was very strict with jade. she wasnt friendly atall when they did the interview.

GiRTh 23-03-2007 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kyoushu
I think davina mccall was very strict with jade. she wasnt friendly atall when they did the interview.
You're kidding right. OMG we've got another one.

Davinas interview was a joke. She asked her questions that Jade clearly had pre planned responses to.

Ruth 23-03-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kyoushu
I think davina mccall was very strict with jade. she wasnt friendly atall when they did the interview.
You can come here under your other username you know. You don't have to set up a new account.

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Regarding your comment:- "It's insult time is it?"

I would very much agree, that when it comes to insults against me, that you are in the top three!

I have been quite tactful and quite un-insulting in return generally. Check all your past posts for evidence of that.

I don't want to be blamed for inaccuracies, do I?
I've twice called you racist on the forum because i believe you are. You've said nothing to change my thought but you keep bringing up the subject of race. When I call you on it - as I'm entitled to do - you accuse me of either over reacting or seeing things that aren't there. If they weren't there I wouldn't see them.
Quote:

If I choose to bring up "Race", it is because, this is why the three girls have been labelled racists by many people.

I am on here to defend them.

I am up against the prosecution and there are many of them, aren't there GiRTh.

I won't waffle on this occasion
The girls were also accused of bullying but you don't mention that anywhere near as much as you mention race. Are you obsessed with race? Why is it so important for you to remind us that if the people were of the same race there would not have been such a fuss?
When you call Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara racist people, it is easy for anyone to, "Just Say It".

The same applies to anyone that you assume is a racist person.

Sadly, there is more to racism than meets the eye.

Very racist, Part-Time racist, Accidental racism & racist jokes.

Then you need to look at evidence.

The evidence which was on the shown footage on Big Brother is what the CPS used to come to their decision.

We have been over this before, GiRTh

The CPS decision is the right decision.
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I have mentioned "bullying" many times also.

Spend some time looking through old posts on other topics. But there is some detail to trawl through. Plenty of truths there GiRTh.

In regard to your last question, which I shall include in this paragraph:-

Q) (Why is it so important for you to remind us that if the people were of the same race there would not have been such a fuss? )

A) Because I chose to on that occasion.
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Back to the topic, Davina McCall....

Don't assume that she is siding or giving Jade Goody any worse or better treatment than Jo or Danielle.

Davina wants to remain impartial and do her job properly, which she does and wonderfully too.

GiRTh 23-03-2007 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

When you call Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara racist people, it is easy for anyone to, "Just Say It".

The same applies to anyone that you assume is a racist person.

Sadly, there is more to racism than meets the eye.
Waffle. And you were doing so well.

Quote:

Very racist, Part-Time racist, Accidental racism & racist jokes.
Define each of these as you see them. I'm intrigued to hear this.

Quote:

Then you need to look at evidence.

The evidence which was on the shown footage on Big Brother is what the CPS used to come to their decision.

We have been over this before, GiRTh

The CPS decision is the right decision.
It was the right decision in terms of the law. However, it only means that they cannot PROVE that racism took place. it's very hard to prove and to someone like you I bet if the were burning crosses and performing lynchings, you'd still not be convinced.

Quote:

I have mentioned "bullying" many times also.

Spend some time looking through old posts on other topics. But there is some detail to trawl through. Plenty of truths there GiRTh.
You know I'm not going to trawl through all you waffle. My life, unlike yours, doesn't revolve around 'Jade Goody'.

Quote:

In regard to your last question, which I shall include in this paragraph:-

Q) (Why is it so important for you to remind us that if the people were of the same race there would not have been such a fuss? )

A) Because I chose to on that occasion.
Not a satisfactory answer. Would you like another go?

Quote:

Back to the topic, Davina McCall....

Don't assume that she is siding or giving Jade Goody any worse or better treatment than Jo or Danielle.

Davina wants to remain impartial and do her job properly, which she does and wonderfully too.
She did seem to favour Jade and due to the fact that they are agent stable mates, we can only speculate.

Mrluvaluva 23-03-2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

Very racist, Part-Time racist, Accidental racism & racist jokes.


Lol. I just called someone a ****, but they forgave me as I explained it was "accidental racism" and then everything was fine. What planet are you on?

nodisharmony 23-03-2007 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kyoushu
I think davina mccall was very strict with jade. she wasnt friendly atall when they did the interview.
Davina McCall does a good job and was strict with Jade Goody, but was also not over-doing it either.

That is very fair to the housemates.

Anyway, a few need further convincing, so here is the complete evidence.
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Click on the four videos below:-
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(Jade's Eviction from the BB house)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0CG5_UfPv4
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(Davina interviews Jade Goody "Part 1")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY8V_oQmR8I
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(Davina interviews Jade Goody "Part 2")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmclwCMYg2Q
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(Davina tells why & her opinion of it all)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNvTCVVT-iY

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Now we can look again & make a real judgement call...


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