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Denver 01-02-2017 07:38 PM

MPs vote to give May power to start Brexit by triggering article 50
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

Here are the figures showing how MPs voted on the first vote, the SNP amendment.

For the amendment saying the bill should be blocked

SNP: 50

Labour: 33

Lib Dems: 7

SDLP: 3

Plaid Cymru: 2

Green: 1

Conservative: 1

Total: 100

Against the amendment

Conservatives: 319

DUP: 8

Labour: 6

UUP: 2

Ukip: 1

Total: 336

Jack_ 01-02-2017 07:44 PM

So much for the subversion of democracy the court case was going to bring about...

:rolleyes:

jaxie 01-02-2017 08:16 PM

Great, let's get on with it then!

user104658 01-02-2017 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9196850)
So much for the subversion of democracy the court case was going to bring about...

:rolleyes:

Exactly, maybe people will learn to just do things the legal way in the first place in future, instead of trying to hedge their bets through totalitarianism.

Vicky. 01-02-2017 09:43 PM

Am I right in thinking those numbers don't add up at all and a hell of a lot of MPs just didn't ****ing bother going? I really do think they should be removed from their positions if they can't be arsed to show up for votes and stuff.

1 Tory sacked tomorrow? :laugh:

Vicky. 01-02-2017 09:45 PM

Quote:

The bill still has to get through another three days of debate in the Commons, and then it will go to the Lords, but with MPs backing it by such a large margin it now seems certain to clear all its parliamentary stages by the beginning of March.
I don't really understand all of this, but does this mean the Lords can block also?

All a mess...surely Cameron knew all of this already. I wonder if this is why he ****ed off to leave someone else to deal with his issues. Spineless prick.

smudgie 01-02-2017 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9197588)
Am I right in thinking those numbers don't add up at all and a hell of a lot of MPs just didn't ****ing bother going? I really do think they should be removed from their positions if they can't be arsed to show up for votes and stuff.

1 Tory sacked tomorrow? :laugh:

I would think it was Ken Clarke, unless he abstained.

Brillopad 01-02-2017 10:08 PM

Great news.

smudgie 01-02-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9197645)
Great news.

Yeah, it was a given really.

Kizzy 02-02-2017 05:48 AM

I'm confused, why did they have the vote before the release of the white paper, what if there something in it that would sway MPs?

arista 02-02-2017 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9198003)
I'm confused, why did they have the vote before the release of the white paper, what if there something in it that would sway MPs?


http://e3.365dm.com/17/02/536x302/79...20170201215406

http://e3.365dm.com/17/02/536x302/8f...20170201222557

arista 02-02-2017 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9196995)
Great, let's get on with it then!


Yes
reported as March 10th
it's started.

http://e3.365dm.com/17/02/536x302/40...20170201215935

arista 02-02-2017 07:05 AM

http://e3.365dm.com/17/02/536x302/53...20170201223102

user104658 02-02-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9198024)

Bull**** bulletpoints as always; all 50 SNP MP's fully supported the "will" of the people who elected them :). Plus the entire thing was regarding specifics and terms of Brexit, not "cancelling Brexit". Snooze. I am so ****ing bored of the idiot-press.

user104658 02-02-2017 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9198003)
I'm confused, why did they have the vote before the release of the white paper, what if there something in it that would sway MPs?

Silly Kizzy you just answered your own question :joker:

user104658 02-02-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9197594)
All a mess...surely Cameron knew all of this already. I wonder if this is why he ****ed off to leave someone else to deal with his issues. Spineless prick.

I think that was pretty obvious as soon as the result was in :laugh:. He did NOT expect an "out" result and his reaction was, effectively, "Oh ****! LOL! Err, tell the staff to pack our bags Sam! We must flee!"

arista 02-02-2017 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9198046)
Bull**** bulletpoints as always; all 50 SNP MP's fully supported the "will" of the people who elected them :). Plus the entire thing was regarding specifics and terms of Brexit, not "cancelling Brexit". Snooze. I am so ****ing bored of the idiot-press.


SNP
are wanting YOU Divorced from us TS
http://wpms.freakwebdesign.co.uk/edi...r1-500x383.jpg


Are you ready Punk?
with respect

user104658 02-02-2017 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9198109)
SNP
are wanting YOU Divorced from us TS
http://wpms.freakwebdesign.co.uk/edi...r1-500x383.jpg


Are you ready Punk?
with respect

I'm Scottish, my wife is English, so we will always be able to live in either country. Once she's finished University and qualified in her field, we will pretty much be able to live wherever we want...

So being totally honest, I don't give all that much of a **** any more. We'll live wherever we get the best deal :joker:.

Livia 02-02-2017 10:13 AM

It was always going to be the result. Imagine if we'd voted to remain in the EU and someone brought a court case forcing a parliamentary vote which might lead to us leaving.

Imagine if Scotland had voted to leave the UK and someone had brought a court case allowing parliament to overrule the referendum.

Outrage would ensue...

So all that happened in the end was that a lot of lawyers have ended up with taxpayers money for fighting a futile court case.

jaxie 02-02-2017 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9198046)
Bull**** bulletpoints as always; all 50 SNP MP's fully supported the "will" of the people who elected them :). Plus the entire thing was regarding specifics and terms of Brexit, not "cancelling Brexit". Snooze. I am so ****ing bored of the idiot-press.

Well I do have to point out in the interest of fairness that quite a lot of Scots voted to leave too so not quite representing all of the people who voted for them. :shrug: There were some Scottish constituencies that had a majority leave vote, mostly the fishing communities who have suffered so much from the common fisheries policy over the years. So in fact their MP must have voted against them.

jaxie 02-02-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9198050)
I think that was pretty obvious as soon as the result was in :laugh:. He did NOT expect an "out" result and his reaction was, effectively, "Oh ****! LOL! Err, tell the staff to pack our bags Sam! We must flee!"

I think he will be remembered in history as the PM who gave a vote on a major change without any back up plan for the change. What was he thinking? Total tool basically.

jaxie 02-02-2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9198125)
It was always going to be the result. Imagine if we'd voted to remain in the EU and someone brought a court case forcing a parliamentary vote which might lead to us leaving.

Imagine if Scotland had voted to leave the UK and someone had brought a court case allowing parliament to overrule the referendum.

Outrage would ensue...

So all that happened in the end was that a lot of lawyers have ended up with taxpayers money for fighting a futile court case.

Seeing the results of the court case in Parliament it's hard not to feel what a complete and utter waste of everyone's time from Gina and her cronies.

Northern Monkey 02-02-2017 11:25 AM

Diane Abbott threw a sicky for the vote saying she had a migraine but then was seen down the road involved in a debate apparently.

Northern Monkey 02-02-2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9198050)
I think that was pretty obvious as soon as the result was in :laugh:. He did NOT expect an "out" result and his reaction was, effectively, "Oh ****! LOL! Err, tell the staff to pack our bags Sam! We must flee!"

Yeah i'm pretty sure this is the case.I even remember him 'confirming' in parliament that he would be staying in office to oversee the results.It seems he was very confident of a remain result.Too confident.

Edited to add:that i think winning the GE made him over confident and complacent that whatever the Tories position was the public would follow suit.

Edited again to add:I think a big part of the leave result was down to Cameron coming back from his tour of Europe with his tail between his legs and getting next to nothing from them after saying he was going to reform the EU etc etc and get a better arrangement for Britain.

Northern Monkey 02-02-2017 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9198205)
Seeing the results of the court case in Parliament it's hard not to feel what a complete and utter waste of everyone's time from Gina and her cronies.

Yeah she's probably planning her next attempt to put the brakes on Brexit as we speak.It kind of backfired on her.She got a vote in Parliament which did nothing for her cause.


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