ok so the singing voices were clearly edited/not even the actor's singing(?0 and I don't think they even tried to change that and usually I wouldn't mind if the voices were good but they.... just weren't (I remember liking Alice's tho). I'm guessing they did it to mock the musical genre's excessive editing (since Veronica, Archie, and Betty have both proven to have good singing voices in the past). It's such a shame the songs were forgettable, usually after a musical episode of a TV showI find myself guiltily listening to one or two of the songs on repeat for a few days but I genuinely cannot remember any of the songs from the last episode </3

I appreciate they tried to tie up some loose ends, although I guess they had to since the Black Hood is returning and the story's gonna shift again? I don't think there's a single viewer who thought the B.H. was really caught, which made the ending... not predictable in a sense (at least for me, although in hindsight it made sense for Midge to be the one to be killed given the whole 'recast Carrie!!' **** going on throughout) but rather, 'well obviously he's still alive'. The reveal just didn't feel very rewarding, and now we get to see the core four theorise over whether or not the Black Hood is dead or alive for half of this story-arc before concluding he is alive, before the SHOCKING climax in the final episode of season 2!

Sarcasm and bitterness aside, it was a... nice episode. And I'm glad Cheryl's getting back to the stone cold bitch with vulnerability we saw in season 1 (that's not to say I didn't enjoy her more prevalent vulnerable side - she's a teenager who lost her twin, father, almost her life, was sent to a conversion camp and has an abusive mother, seeing how she copes with that is interesting and made me love Cheryl even more, but it just felt like the right time for her to take action). Also Archie's music aspirations were brought up again, so it's nice the writer's realised he used to be a real teenager with career ambitions. Felt more human than him being Hiram's bitch and having some weird conflict with his dad

I'm hoping the return of the Black Hood puts things back on track, the gangster stuff is terrible.

did they really kill off jughead?

Cheryl being extra in changing her clothes mid chase with the Black Hood so she could make an impressive entrance with a cape and bow made me howl, it pretty much made me forgive the bad writing that turned her into Katniss Everdeen in the space of a second. She's never been shown an interest in hunting or tracking yet here she is tracking a serial killer in a forest while having an impecable aim with a bow :laugh:

I cackled every time the Ghoulies (I'm sorry, that name is ridiculous) appeared with their ridiculous costumes and make up, I was in tears at the point with the random mobster who appeared in one scene and died almost instantly because he decided to slowly walk at Hermione despite the fact she had a gun trained on him.

Hal being the Black Hood was signposted a bit too much, I'm hoping the reveal of who the other Hood is, is a bit more shocking. I'm guessing it's going to be someone predictable like Chic or Betty's real brother or Cheryl's uncle.

so Hal admitted to shooting Fred. While Hal was at home, a black hooded man with the same green eyes as the man who shot Fred in the diner attacked Archie and Fred. Which suggests he's the original Black Hood.

Is the theory that Hal has a twin brother likely? Is his dad alive and somehoe fit enough to attack 2 younger men? And how will Kevin's DDLB fetish cope?

season 3 episode 1 short recap, overall i enjoyed the first episode of this new season, Serpents having saved Hot Dog from the Ghoulies, and the trial of course for Archie if he is found guilty or not, well there was a split decision between the jury so Archie wasn't found guilty yet, but he accepted a plea deal for 2 years in Juvenile detention, and the ep also introduced to our newest villain, Gargoyle King

so basically we get a start of Archie's life in prison, the warden and the guards are all being paid by Hiram Lodge so they make things real worse for Archie in there, and the Gargoyle King case, Dilton confirmed first death of the season, Ben was at first in coma but later committed suicide while in a sort of weird trance, and Ethel had a seizure

and it now seems that the parents did something when they were young, and now the kids are being punished for that with the gargoyle king, who could be a suspect for this character, possibly a tall guy

trying to find out who the gargoyle king is

some episode titles for season 3

ep3: as above, so below
ep4: the midnight club
ep5: the great escape
ep6: Manhunter
ep7: The Man in Black
ep8: Outbreak
ep9: No Exit

Veronica opening her nightclub, with Hiram and his henchmen Sheriff Minetta and Penny Peabody trying to sabotage that unsuccessfully, Archie having to fight for his life and to make a show to a lot of people in the prison, Betty and Jughead investigating more and more into the Gargoyle King, they find out their parents know more about this

my theory: i see in this Edgar Evernever a possible suspect, cause for ''the farm'' he acts like a king, a sort of cult, and it is the same with the ones who play griffins and gargoyles, also a cult, i think as for motive the parents did something to this guy and now he pays them back by going after their children :think:

Gladys Jones, mother of Jughead and Jellybean, estranged wife of FP

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Hiram Lodge, cause we saw the gargoyle king standing in his office with Hiram himself, so it can't be him

i am still thinking it might be Claudius Blossom, a blossom is a psycho anyway honestly, especially Clifford's twin brother hmmm and we know he is in league with Hiram Lodge :think: they did give us an hint, gargoyles/griffions is created by the most crazy kids who stayed at those sisters

new episode titles confirmed

first we get episode 9 called No Exit

episode 10: The Stranger (hmm is this a reference to edgar evernever's introduction or hiram's mistress arrival to riverdale :think: )

episode 11: The Red Dahlia

episode 12: Bizarrodale

episode 13: Requiem for a welterweight

episode 14: Fire Walk with me

episode 15: Fifty Fifty

episode 9, ok riverdale is now under Hiram's control

Archie in the woods, got a encounter with a bear, and began hallucinating about all the things he had done wrong, and did them right in this weird dream i was like WTF in reality he's more like comatose now


Veronica hiring the serpents as her security force against Hiram and his gargoyle gang


Betty wanted the sisters of quiet mercy to testify against Hiram, they weren't official nuns anymore so their silence wasn't valid Gargoyle King & Hiram bailed out the sisters and gave them a chance to ascend (suicide by cyanide poisoning) to prevent them from ever talking again to the police, Betty

overall a good episode, and i'm one step closer to finding out who the gargoyle king is one big clue what Alice said ''Edgar was just at her home'' so he knows the way around riverdale, but yet we never see him so far HMM :think:

she has way more Chemistry now with Reggie, them running that nightclub at basement of pop's

now not anymore more like Veronica tries to steer him to be a more good guy, i see Gladys Jones more as a villain

Jason Blossom

it's a red (ha) herring? Sounds like something they said to keep us watching. Apparently the series finale is full of twists, maybe Jason not being the Gargoyle King is the twist

I love how normal this bull**** is to Jughead and Betty. They're just like "only one way to be sure it's Jason. dig him up :hugesmile:" rather than thinking "well he's dead so she's clearly bull****ting"

Chic as his story ending Abruptly and I dont think a body was found?

I'm not gonna lie, I've been thinking Chic. If I recall, the tattooist said a blond guy came in asking for a tattoo. Betty thought it'd be Evelyn's 'dad'/husband but it wasn't, I can't remember if they actually found out which guy it was who got the tattoo but the only other blond guy that comes to mind is Chic. Chic's barely been mentioned, was a pretty big character, yet had literally zero closure on his death. We're just supposed to believe that the Black Hood killed him, and if the Black Hood and the Gargoyle King are in kahoots with each other, it wouldn't be surprising if Hal/The Black Hood spared Chic if it meant Chic would undertake the role as Gargoyle King

Chic

I cant believe we didnt see Alice being undercover when it made the most sense

Also now we know what we always knew that Chic was fake

its also Clear Jughead isnt dead but who is?

Not surprised by the Gargoyle King being Chic. The reveal was anticlimactic though. But I guess that happens when they make it obvious (unknown blond guy getting a tattoo, connection with Black Hood, etc)

Am I really supposed to believe Jason's dead corpse was believed to be real by Cheryl under hypnotherapy? I thought they'd say Chic was standing in for Cheryl's hallucinations when he was revealed to be taking the identity of Jason

So who WAS the original Gargoyle King? We know Penelope introduced the game but I also got the impression she wasn't the Gargoyle King originally, just helping them

The moment Betty said, "Do I know you?" to the detective, I knew he'd say he's Charles. What I wanna know is how he and Alice met. And how Betty's allowed to so publicly talk about her mum being an FBI detective.
It also just feels like a cliche fanfic with Betty and Jughead being recognised by the FBI as being good detectives. :laugh:

So is every season from now on just gonna end with Hiram getting someone arrested? I'm getting bored of him.

So are we EVER gonna find out how the Farm caused so many teenagers to have seizures? Why's this some big mystery? The answer's not gonna be interesting/worth nearly a year wait

Was Polly in on Alice being an FBI agent?

Why is the Farm storyline taking longer than twenty ****ing two episodes/an entire season?

What the **** is Cheryl doing with Jason's corpse?

Are we meant to think Jughead's dead at the end? Because I'm not believing it for a second

The seizures happened because Hiram's drug lab poisoned the water supply or something I think it was barely mentioned about halfway through the season. The way Polly was standing in as the other Betty makes me think she's not working with Alice but she's working with Edgar for some reason.

Oh I remember that now. Am I correct in saying only the girls suffered them? Young girls at that? I thought it was gonna be something specific to why such a small demographic suffered them

Ysee Id say that but Alice was... Also Bad to Betty. She almost made her homeless, tried to take out her entire college fund, and so much more that it feels to ****ed up that she was sacrificing her own daughter's safety for the sake of her job. Something fishy is going on