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Scarlett. 14-03-2017 04:13 AM

Gaming Youtuber, Jon Tron tried to defend White Supremacy in debate
 
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Jon Jafari is a popular YouTube gamer and comedian better known as JonTron. He’s the founder of Normalboots—a network of channels including Did You Know Gaming and Peanutbuttergamer—and was the original cohost of the “Let’s Play” channel Game Grumps. Between those projects, Jafari wields influence over an estimated 12 million subscribers, not counting minor cameos and crossovers elsewhere within the YouTube community.

More recently, Jafari has claimed that Mexican immigrants are setting up “ethnic enclaves” in the US “to break parts of America off back into Mexico.”

Jafari began his descent into madness on Sunday, when he tweeted a defense of Iowa Representative Steve King’s controversial claim that “[we] can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” a remark that has since been condemned by just about everyone except for white nationalist and possible fish-human David Duke. From there, Jafari’s tweets led him to agree to defend his positions during a conversation with professional streamer Steve Bonnell, better known as Destiny, on Twitch. Yes, yes, we’re getting to the interesting stuff shortly.

Over the course of two hours, Jafari’s comments on the stream ranged from baseless to deeply inflammatory. In addition to his ludicrous claim about Mexicans attempting to somehow recapture American land, he said that “we don’t need immigrants from incompatible places” and that white people were going through a “demographic displacement” due to immigration, which he likened to apartheid South Africa. Truly the mind reels. But wait, there’s more.

Jafari also claimed that wealthy black Americans commit more crimes than poor whites (citation badly needed), the court system doesn’t display bias against people of color (it does), that Irish and Italians were always considered “white” in America (they weren’t), and that Black Lives Matter doesn’t disavow violence (it does). “We’ve gotten rid of discrimination in our Western countries,” said Jafari, only to later state that “nobody wants to become a minority in their own country.”

The source of Jafari’s anxiety seems to be the looming possibility that whites will become a minority in the United States, which he projects will happen by 2042. And despite Bonnell asking repeatedly why that matters, Jafari instead stumbled through far right talking points vilifying immigrants as lazy criminals and demanding the need for America to have a unifying culture (though he was unable to express why that would demand a white majority). “White interests” and “tribalism” were something he harped on repeatedly but was unable to quantify or defend the importance of. Bonnell pointed out that Jafari is half Iranian and half Hungarian himself. Jafari appeared open to the idea of immigration, conceding that “if they assimilated they would enter the gene pool eventually.” One imagines Mengele would be proud.

Jafari was quick to jump on Bonnell the way many in the far right do when criticized: by claiming that someone is trying to police their thoughts. Jafari is free to think whatever he wants, and we’re free to think less of him for it.

“I thought he would walk back some of the more extreme things he said, but it seems like he was pushing for something more insidious than what I’d originally expected,” Bonnell told Gizmodo via Twitter. “ie: his ‘gene pool’ comment, his laughing about why black youth committed crime, his comparisons between black people in the US vs Africa.”

We reached out to Jafari and Jafari’s associated channels for comment. We’ll update if we hear back.
Gizmodo (Not the best source, but none of the big media have picked it up yet)

Previously people were able to seperate Jon from these views when he defended Trump, that's just a political difference, but Jon delves into some really bad racist stuff in the debate, a lot of his fans are turning their back on him this time.

arista 14-03-2017 05:06 AM

Chewy
Another TRUMP thread from You

Scarlett. 14-03-2017 05:31 AM

Um, it's not a Trump thread, I made a passing mention about Jon Tron once mentioning Trump, this is about a well known Youtuber supporting white supremacy.

arista 14-03-2017 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9249071)
Um, it's not a Trump thread, I made a passing mention about Jon Tron once mentioning Trump, this is about a well known Youtuber supporting white supremacy.

OK Chewy
but when many of read Trump
in your passing mention
they can then make it about Trump.


Well known Youtuber you say
I have 5 live news feeds
no one has brought his name up?

But at least you tell us the Source
so fair play to you Chewy

Tregard 14-03-2017 08:20 AM

Yeah, Jon has been veering into this territory for a while now, I recently stopped watching him because of it, but I never would have anticipated him to go this deep this quickly. It feels like complete career suicide, but I don't know, perhaps much like Colin from Kinda Funny, he's looking towards a lucrative career in right-wing punditry where he knows his audience will be loyal to him. I think what will be very interesting is how his well established network of other Youtube personalities who are friends with him will respond. Defending what he has said would be a terrible idea, but I can definitely see that happening trying not to piss anyone off.

user104658 14-03-2017 08:39 AM

TIL there are "Muslim Riots" regularly in the UK :think:. I'm glad this American guy told me about them because I hadn't noticed :omgno:.

ebandit 14-03-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 9249069)
Chewy
Another TRUMP thread from You

is trump not kinda important right now..........................

disunited states of trump could impact on us all

as to OP...............maybe that guy should stick with gaming?

Mark L

Withano 14-03-2017 09:15 AM

christ, what a ****

Niamh. 14-03-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9249097)
TIL there are "Muslim Riots" regularly in the UK :think:. I'm glad this American guy told me about them because I hadn't noticed :omgno:.

And look what happened in the UK last night just after what happened in Sweden too, Sweden fgs!

Withano 14-03-2017 09:39 AM



These guys sum it up in ten mins, i gave up on the original vid after 40 mins! He was just clearly a deluded moron.

arista 14-03-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ebandit (Post 9249104)
is trump not kinda important right now..........................

disunited states of trump could impact on us all

as to OP...............maybe that guy should stick with gaming?

Mark L

Yes Very

Northern Monkey 14-03-2017 12:13 PM

Looks like although he's not losing many viewers he probs could lose his sponsors.Idiot.Unless he's thinking of quitting YT and moving into something else and he wanted to go out in style.
Can't see why else he'd want to **** his channel up.

Shaun 14-03-2017 12:51 PM

Perhaps stop giving YouTubers a platform.

DemolitionRed 14-03-2017 12:51 PM

And JonTron is second generation Iranian!

Thanks Withano.

Niamh. 14-03-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9249208)
And JonTron is second generation Iranian!

Thanks Withano.

ffs I thought he wanted white Europeans only though? :laugh:

user104658 14-03-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9249213)
ffs I thought he wanted white Europeans only though? :laugh:

Kirk tease tbh

Northern Monkey 14-03-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9249207)
Perhaps stop giving YouTubers a platform.

But.....


Then they wouldn't be YouTubers:laugh:

user104658 14-03-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9249207)
Perhaps stop giving YouTubers a platform.

I think you might have missed the fundamental point of YouTube there...

Withano 14-03-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9249213)
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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9249208)
And JonTron is second generation Iranian!

Thanks Withano.

ffs I thought he wanted white Europeans only though? :laugh:

Wow, bolding everything apart from the 'thanks withano' bit

Shady, Niamh, so shady.

Niamh. 14-03-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9249622)
Wow, bolding everything apart from the 'thanks withano' bit

Shady, Niamh, so shady.

:laugh2:

Brillopad 15-03-2017 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9249065)
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Gizmodo (Not the best source, but none of the big media have picked it up yet)

Previously people were able to seperate Jon from these views when he defended Trump, that's just a political difference, but Jon delves into some really bad racist stuff in the debate, a lot of his fans are turning their back on him this time.

Sounds very one-sided - the usual racist rant against anyone who expresses concerns regarding mass immigration. A vicious attempt to undermine his opinions and possibly twist his words.

You say yourself it wasn't the best source and I personally would reserve judgement based on that alone.

Withano 15-03-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9250027)
Sounds very one-sided - the usual racist rant against anyone who expresses concerns regarding mass immigration. A vicious attempt to undermine his opinions and possibly twist his words.

You say yourself it wasn't the best source and I personally would reserve judgement based on that alone.

Well watch the video then? The article was entirely accurate, and actually, consisted of mostly direct quotes. If you think it must be a biased source cos it makes him sound like a dick, without realising that he sounds that way because of the article is full of his quotes, then you actually agree with everybody else in the thread. The guys is a dick.

You would know this if you watched the vid.

Livia 15-03-2017 09:27 AM

He's got a right to his opinions. Once he puts those opinions out there though, he invites comment. And he must have known what would happen...

Niamh. 15-03-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9250060)
He's got a right to his opinions. Once he puts those opinions out there though, he invites comment. And he must have known what would happen...

I guess these youtubers need shock value to keep them relevant or some s**t

Livia 15-03-2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9250062)
I guess these youtubers need shock value to keep them relevant or some s**t

They need a kick up the arse, most of them.


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