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Denver 28-03-2017 10:44 PM

Northern Ireland is free to hold a referendum to split from the UK
 
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A leaked letter addressed to David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, suggests the UK government would back a vote allowing Northern Ireland to leave the UK.

Should the nation reunify with the Republic of Ireland, it would be able to join to European Union, the letter shows.

Because the Republic is already a member of the bloc, access would be automatic – unlike Scotland.

In the letter, seen by The Times, Mr Davis wrote: “If a majority of the people of Northern Ireland were ever to vote to become part of a united Ireland the UK Government will honour its commitment to enable that to happen.”

He added: “In that event, Northern Ireland would be in a position of becoming part of an existing EU member state, rather than seeking to join the EU as a new independent state.”

Under the Good Friday Agreement, the UK government is legally obliged to offer a referendum if public polls support it.

“If a majority of the people of Northern Ireland were ever to vote to become part of a united Ireland the UK Government will honour its commitment to enable that to happen.”
David Davis
It comes after the leader of Sinn Fein called for a referendum on leaving the UK “as soon as possible”.

Michelle O’Neill said Brexit would be a “disaster” for the province and rejoining the Republic would be one way of avoiding the negative effects.

Meanwhile, the Northern Irish power sharing agreement between unionists and republicans broke down on Monday.

The possibility of home rule – which would see Northern Ireland governed from Westminster – is now on the table.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...um-to-leave-UK

MTVN 28-03-2017 10:49 PM

Well yeah that has always been the case since the Troubles ended, right now though there is no settled government in Northern Ireland, the largest party is still the DUP and there is little public will for a referendum so it is highly unlikely that there will be one anytime soon

Jason. 28-03-2017 10:50 PM

The Troubles 2.0 incoming?

Marsh. 28-03-2017 11:11 PM

The Scots AND the Irish leaving the forum?

UserSince2005 28-03-2017 11:14 PM

We wouldnt be so lucky

reece(: 28-03-2017 11:14 PM

Poor Wales

Northern Monkey 29-03-2017 01:55 AM

I bet Sturgeon is pissed.

the truth 29-03-2017 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9265309)
Poor Wales

Wales doesnt seem interested in any referendum....Its too small economically and too inextricably linked with England and vice versa...Frankly that seems sensible...Does Wales want a new currency? nope. It voted against the EU....Does it want its own army? Nope...The welsh regiments are showered in glory for centuries...

The English empire which became the british empire , started with a merger with Wales and the magna carta, around 900 years ago and after taking over the globe with the ships built in ireland and scotland with welsh copper bottoms, welsh cannonballs and welsh coal to fire them up... now after our worldly adventures its back to where we started returning to these unlikely 2 bedfellows...The dear old english and the welsh:joker: I think it can be a massive success again. 55 million strong, same laws and in control of our own destiny....Teresa May will need a whole new trade and industrial strategy as the opportunities there could be phenomenal.

joeysteele 29-03-2017 08:57 AM

I'd love to see a re-unified Ireland, the Dup are losing ground in Northern Ireland and moreso with the new young voters of the future.

Wales I feel sorry for, probably a good number in England likely sees Wales as a shire of England anyway.
If Wales is happy with that, I feel sorry for Wales but that's their choice.

Just as N.Ireland and Scotland should without any dictation from English MPs at Westminster, be able to decide their futures.

Wizard. 29-03-2017 09:58 AM

Us to get Big Brother Ireland and Big Brother Scotland all at once?

Tregard 29-03-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9265514)
Us to get Big Brother Ireland and Big Brother Scotland all at once?

Big Brother Celtic Federation!

I reckon this is going to happen at some point, but not in the near future. Our government is in complete tatters because the DUP and Sinn Fein can't compromise, and we're not likely to forsee a snap election again.

Niamh. 29-03-2017 10:23 AM

I'm not sure that NI would vote to reunite with us tbh, you're going to have the people really for it and people really against it and then those who are not sure probably will vote to stay with the UK I think out of fear of such a massive change. I would love if they did though

user104658 29-03-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tregard (Post 9265521)
Big Brother Celtic Federation!

Fully subtitled in England :hehe:

user104658 29-03-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9265525)
I'm not sure that NI would vote to reunite with us tbh, you're going to have the people really for it and people really against it and then those who are not sure probably will vote to stay with the UK I think out of fear of such a massive change. I would love if they did though

I'm surprised London isn't actively encouraging it. Having a land border with an EU country is problematic for the post-Brexit rUK.

Assuming Scotland doesn't get FREEDUM of course, as then there'll be a nice big land border anyway. All of the EU migrants will fly to Edinburgh and then POUR over the border into precious English towns, raping and pillaging as they go :worry:.

Niamh. 29-03-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9265528)
I'm surprised London isn't actively encouraging it. Having a land border with an EU country is problematic for the post-Brexit rUK.

Assuming Scotland doesn't get FREEDUM of course, as then there'll be a nice big land border anyway. All of the EU migrants will fly to Edinburgh and then POUR over the border into precious English towns, raping and pillaging as they go :worry:.

Yeah good point but they don't seem to be trashing the idea like they are with Scotland so that's probably encouraging it in their own way :laugh:

It would certainly be an interesting era for everyone if that happened though

MTVN 29-03-2017 11:12 AM

Funny enough the first question at PMQs today actually asked for assurance that the government would support a campaign for NI to stay in the UK if there was ever a referendum

Kizzy 29-03-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9265555)
Funny enough the first question at PMQs today actually asked for assurance that the government would support a campaign for NI to stay in the UK if there was ever a referendum

Reformation #2 :joker:

Niamh. 29-03-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9265555)
Funny enough the first question at PMQs today actually asked for assurance that the government would support a campaign for NI to stay in the UK if there was ever a referendum

Oh really and what was the answer/who asked it?

user104658 29-03-2017 11:21 AM

One step closer to the United Kingdom of Scotland and Ireland tbh. Capital city Edinburgh, of course.

Niamh. 29-03-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9265565)
One step closer to the United Kingdom of Scotland and Ireland tbh. Capital city Edinburgh, of course.

Capital City Cork for fairness sake :hee:

Denver 29-03-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9265533)
Yeah good point but they don't seem to be trashing the idea like they are with Scotland so that's probably encouraging it in their own way :laugh:

It would certainly be an interesting era for everyone if that happened though

N Ireland have yet to have a referendum whole Scotland just had one that is the reason why Scotland can't have one and N Ireland can

MTVN 29-03-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9265562)
Oh really and what was the answer/who asked it?

A Northern Irish Unionist MP asked it, the PM just said the government will always support NI staying in the UK and would never be neutral on that, guess she could never say otherwise though

Niamh. 29-03-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9265572)
N Ireland have yet to have a referendum whole Scotland just had one that is the reason why Scotland can't have one and N Ireland can

Oh I didn't realise you were the boss of who can have referendums :hehe:

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9265573)
A Northern Irish Unionist MP asked it, the PM just said the government will always support NI staying in the UK and would never be neutral on that, guess she could never say otherwise though

Thanks Matt. Yeah, of course she's going to have to say that really, imagine if she said nah we went you lot out :laugh:

Northern Monkey 29-03-2017 11:33 AM

I think the government should support NI and Scotland in whatever they want to do.However i think they should do it after brexit is done with.There's enough **** going on right now.

Denver 29-03-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9265575)
Oh I didn't realise you were the boss of who can have referendums :hehe::

Came from the PM herself she will not allow another Scottish referendum


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