New law will assume all Irish people are organ donors
 

Thoughts? Good or bad idea? I think it's great, I think most people would be happy to be donors just couldn't be bothered going to the trouble of registering as a donor. If you feel strongly against donating you can always opt out

https://buzz.ie/new-law-will-assume-...-organ-donors/
A new Irish organ donor law has been proposed that will presume everyone is an organ donor in the event of their death.

The “opt out” system is designed to increase organ donation.

Minister for Health will take the plan to Cabinet and if passed it’s hoped the law could be in place before the end of the year.

According to the Irish Times, the Human Tissue Bill will put a system of “presumed consent” in place to replace the current law which requires organ donors to opt-in if they wish to make their organs available for transplantation following their death.

What if they are a Jehovah's witness?

Then I assume they would opt out?

What if they didnt do it in time

That would be tough luck

Bad idea in Ireland

Why?

All those Guiness pickled livers


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But I was looking at a survey done last year asking Do you plan on Donating your organs and 80% answered yes and only 8% said no (the rest said I don't know) So it's seems logical to have an opt out system in place

Id donate my organs to a private hospital, but not an nhs hospital, god knows what they do with them, ive heard some horror stories.

It's a great idea and I think it should be the norm world wide. Waiting lists would evaporate if there's thousands of organs made available every day.

What about the young?

The answer will be the same to all you questions :laugh: Presumably it would be up to their parents to opt them out if they're under age

I dont think people want to bury their child all slice open and empty

They could opt them out then? But I'm sure if a child dies unexpectedly, the parents would be able to opt them out after they'd died as they are legal guardians and the Doctors aren't going to run off with their body before they can stop them :/

ETA : Alot of parents would feel like some part of their child lives on if their organs were used to save another childs life, your description of how the body was buried is pretty crass and unnecessary tbh

Well it's definitely a good idea in practical terms.
I suppose the other side of it could be that it's a little bit Orwellian.It kind of presumes that the state owns you,That you are government property.
Should you have to put it in your will that you don't want body parts stolen after death in a free society?
I can see both sides.

I think a lot of parents wouldn't opt out, I've got a dour view on humanity but I think most parents would be empathetic enough in that situation to understand that donating the organs would save other children from dying and their parents from going through what they are going through.

Yes absolutely, that's how I would feel about it. It also makes your child into a bit of a hero too after they passed

I kind of see what you're saying but it's to save lives not for government experiments or for their benefits

I imagine it might be a miniscule comfort to know that their death had meaning too, that it wasn't in vain.

This for me certainly.

...is such a bill likely to be passed

...i see too many objectors now.............and later

...i agree in practice it's a good idea but choice should lie with an individual and not

be assumed

Mark L

There's only one organ of mine that everybody wants.

I'll give you a clue

More like Tadpole :fan:

It's how it should be... if you ask people, the vast majority say they would happily donate organs when they die. But then if you follow up that question with "and are you on the organ donation register?"... most are not, simply because it doesn't occur to most people to sign up.

Anyone who feels strongly enough about not donating will surely opt out straight away? If they don't... well then you sort of have to assume that they weren't all THAT bothered about it.