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Kizzy 10-05-2017 04:34 PM

'PC' The truth
 
The news is full of stories about how ‘the PC brigade’ is ruining British life, says Nesrine Malik. From Easter being banned to diversity drives ruining businesses, she says, politicians and the press fuel the false idea that diversity threatens all we know. But, she argues, these falsehoods are propagated for a reason – to delegitimise the ideals of the left.




https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ad-a-lie-video

Northern Monkey 10-05-2017 04:47 PM

Oh.I thought the Truth had joined the force for a second there

Alf 10-05-2017 04:48 PM

And what?


She's not speaking for me, all I'm getting from her is "there are no problems, so shut up, and know your place"

Beso 10-05-2017 05:03 PM

A youtube video equals the truth..omg that is too funny.:joker:

Kizzy 10-05-2017 05:21 PM

I put it here in the hope of a debate, 3 mocking comments later... Still waiting.

the truth 10-05-2017 05:27 PM

she is wrong. another hard line left wing liberal ....20,000 kids molested in rotherham because the social services and police were too scared of political correctness. why the heck does she put women in with minorities anyway? women are a majority? its time we seperate disabled rights from womens rights and treat disabled rights in their own right. In the past 30 yrs disabled rights have been drowned out by diversity and by the demands of feminsists. The biggest irony of all, the so called peace loving, caring, open minded liberals are the ones who openly advocate violence on the streets way way more than the tories

smudgie 10-05-2017 05:30 PM

:shocked: Easter was banned:shocked:
:nono: not in this house.

Brillopad 10-05-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9301358)
:shocked: Easter was banned:shocked:
:nono: not in this house.

Not this one either. I love Easter.

Withano 10-05-2017 05:40 PM

I liked the video, and I think she made a good point. A lot of people take these Easter egg stories very, very seriously without realising that most liberals are in agreement. I wasn't actually aware it was a fake story!

I personally, however think that the main conflicting issue is people believing that they are above PC or immune to it.
Many think that they are not at all PC.. but refuse to acknowledge that there are dozens of words that they would not use because of the offence that it causes.
Everyone is a little PC, some more than others. It's up to each person to draw a sensible line. I personally believe lefties and righties have a very similar line for most topics.. but there are some either end of the scale that take the piss, I've found that these people are often disliked by lefties and righties alike.

the truth 10-05-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9301362)
I liked the video, and I think she made a good point. A lot of people take these Easter egg stories very, very seriously without realising that most liberals are in agreement. I wasn't actually aware it was a fake story!

I personally, however think that the main conflicting issue is people believing that they are above PC or immune to it.
Many think that they are not at all PC.. but refuse to acknowledge that there are dozens of words that they would not use because of the offence that it causes.
Everyone is a little PC, some more than others. It's up to each person to draw a sensible line. I personally believe lefties and righties have a very similar line for most topics.. but there are some either end of the scale that take the piss, I've found that these people are often disliked by lefties and righties alike.

wrong the liberal left have perverted its meaning and used PC as a political tool...people saw through it especially after 20,000 innocent kids were molested in rotherham by mainly muslim people and the stories were buried.

ebandit 10-05-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301354)
I put it here in the hope of a debate, 3 mocking comments later... Still waiting.

why? stomp on others input.............even if debate went differently to as

hoped

Mark L

Kizzy 10-05-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9301365)
wrong the liberal left have perverted its meaning and used PC as a political tool...people saw through it especially after 20,000 innocent kids were molested in rotherham by mainly muslim people and the stories were buried.

What happened in certain areas was in no uncertain terms wrong, and I'm aware of the excuses used for those injustices. What happened in Rotherham happened in other boroughs covering all areas and all parties, read Nick Davies ' Dark Heart' it highlights the issue up and down the UK.

That however is not what is in discussion here, it's the shouting down of those who have taken the time to look closer behind media headlines such as the one purporting that Cadburys had removed Easter... That was believed and repeated without question.
And it was ' PC' that was purportedly to blame for this imaginary scenario.

DemolitionRed 10-05-2017 06:44 PM

I agree with what she says in the video. Political correctness is the imaginary menace invented by the Right to make the Left look like the enemy and the worst affected by this phantom enemy is TheTruth.

No doubt I'll get reported by the PC brigade for that one ^

Withano 10-05-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9301365)
wrong the liberal left have perverted its meaning and used PC as a political tool...people saw through it especially after 20,000 innocent kids were molested in rotherham by mainly muslim people and the stories were buried.

It would be pretty un-PC to bury the stories, un-PC people are the enemy there.

Brillopad 10-05-2017 07:39 PM

Nothing imaginary about PC. Some people will try to convince otherwise but it's there in every aspect of our lives - big, bad, ugly and controlling - trying to tell us all what, when and how to think.

Withano 10-05-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9301419)
Nothing imaginary about PC. Some people will try to convince otherwise but it's there in every aspect of our lives - big, bad, ugly and controlling - trying to tell us all what, when and how to think.

But why would you take notice? Maybe thats the difference? A lefty hears a PC person say no easter and they think something along the lines of 'lol shut up, i do what i want' but this thread makes it seem like rightys hear a PC person say no easter and they respond with 'how dare you tell me what to do and think this is an insult to my culture and a very big deal'. You really dont need to get worked over a few peoples opinion, especially a person so far along the PC scale.

You wouldnt listen to the worlds most un-PC person giving you advice on which offensive words should be brought back, so why listen to the worlds most PC person giving you advice on which inoffensive words should be banned?

Mystic Mock 10-05-2017 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9301365)
wrong the liberal left have perverted its meaning and used PC as a political tool...people saw through it especially after 20,000 innocent kids were molested in rotherham by mainly muslim people and the stories were buried.

That's not PC, that's corruption that you're talking about.

I agree with Withano, everybody has a line that they won't cross which could be deemed as "PC."

Kizzy 10-05-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9301419)
Nothing imaginary about PC. Some people will try to convince otherwise but it's there in every aspect of our lives - big, bad, ugly and controlling - trying to tell us all what, when and how to think.

'PC' sounds a lot like prejudice..

Brillopad 11-05-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301573)
'PC' sounds a lot like prejudice..

PiC is prejudice against those that don't conform.

Whichever way you look at it PC it is every bit as bad as those it accuses. It dictates, is intolerant and discriminates.

user104658 11-05-2017 08:27 AM

Macs work well for what they are but to be honest they are waaay over-priced. That said, fewer and fewer people are using home computers / laptops at all these days, it's mostly tablets and smartphones. Sad.

Brillopad 11-05-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9301424)

I agree with Withano, everybody has a line that they won't cross which could be deemed as "PC."

I disagree, I think beliefs and personal morality are distinctly different from PC which comes from pressure and rules applied by others.

Kizzy 11-05-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9302038)
PiC is prejudice against those that don't conform.

Whichever way you look at it PC it is every bit as bad as those it accuses. It dictates, is intolerant and discriminates.

Can you give an example please, as the term is applied far too broadly to know specifically how highlighting misinformation would be misconstrued as discrimination and or prejudice.

Kizzy 11-05-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9302084)
I disagree, I think beliefs and personal morality are distinctly different from PC which comes from pressure and rules applied by others.

He has a great point, my conscience might tell me that cuts hurting the disabled are wrong... Were I to voice that the reaction could be ( and in my personal experience has been) my views are a result of being lefty or PC, it's a lose lose situation.

DemolitionRed 11-05-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9302105)
He has a great point, my conscience might tell me that cuts hurting the disabled are wrong... Were I to voice that the reaction could be ( and in my personal experience has been) my views are a result of being lefty or PC, it's a lose lose situation.

I think the real bug bearer is this new suggestion that any empathy shown to people less fortunate than ourselves is feigned empathy from the pc brigade... we have to do it because its none pc to do otherwise!

Kizzy 11-05-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9302129)
I think the real bug bearer is this new suggestion that any empathy shown to people less fortunate than ourselves is feigned empathy from the pc brigade... we have to do it because its none pc to do otherwise!

Well this is it, it's almost considered unfashionable to voice any empathy whatsoever you are then nothing more than a 'bleeding heart'.

Another made up term that is (or was before 'pc' became the preferred option) a slur to anyone who finds cuts (for instance) a false economy.

But more than that as highlighted 'pc' i being used strategically to pit people against one another by alluding they affect 'shared values' as seen with the Cadbury example, when in reality they don't at all.


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