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the truth 09-06-2017 11:26 AM

people being way too harsh on may
 
She has 44% of the public vote which is the highest since 1983
she has a 57 seat majority over labour and only 8 seats short of an overall majority. The DUP just add the essential 8 , they are right wing so its not the coalition of chaos the likes of bitter ex chancellor george osbourne claims in his poisonous paper.

All this in the middle of the absolute chaos of brexit after everyone else quit from gove to cameron to boris etc ONLY may took on the phenomenal task of facing brexit...she pushed through article 50. another mighty challenge. our media is so hyper criticial yet the task shes had has needed someone almost super human to deal with...imagine dealing with brexit? going through 10000s of laws over 50 odd years entangling 30 nations and over 500 million people? and a party that is killing itself with a civil war over europe

Is it any wonder the electorate is volatile?

At the end of the day she asked for an election as she needed to be voted in legitimately, she hasnt got a clear majority but she has won and she is rightly the prime minister. The economy is doing well since she has taken over too, the markets are booming, growth has exceeded expectations, unemployed has fallen...I suggest give her a bit of respect now and allow her time to try and go into battle with those EU bigwigs. Its time we unite and do battle for britain

Vicky. 09-06-2017 11:29 AM

She should have walked it though. She threw this away.

The arrogance of calling a vote when she was leading massively in the polls (after saying she wouldnt too...) when an election wasn't needed...at a time where even SHE says Brexit negotiations should have been concentrated on.

smudgie 09-06-2017 11:33 AM

She took the chance, it backfired. She has to accept some criticism.
Considering she offered nothing and even upset some pensioners,she has done well to be able to still form a government against someone who offered the moon on a stick.

the truth 09-06-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346705)
She should have walked it though. She threw this away.

The arrogance of calling a vote when she was leading massively in the polls (after saying she wouldnt too...) when an election wasn't needed...at a time where even SHE says Brexit negotiations should have been concentrated on.

Nah youre just repeating parrot fashion some sensationalised headlines....She called it to have her own mandate to deal with the nightmare of brexit... Brown got in the back door, like may, he ducked a general election and it cost him. may showed bottle , shes now prime minster through the front door... I think the election will be good for democracy. But she needs to carry on now and do a job as the legitimately elected prime minister

the truth 09-06-2017 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9346720)
She took the chance, it backfired. She has to accept some criticism.
Considering she offered nothing and even upset some pensioners,she has done well to be able to still form a government against someone who offered the moon on a stick.

At least she was honest and didnt promise money she couldnt afford from the corbyns magical money tree

Vicky. 09-06-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9346722)
Nah youre just repeating parrot fashion some sensationalised headlines....She called it to have her own mandate to deal with the nightmare of brexit... Brown got in the back door, like may, he ducked a general election and it cost him. may showed bottle , shes now prime minster through the front door... I think the election will be good for democracy. But she needs to carry on now and do a job as the legitimately elected prime minister

...no.

the truth 09-06-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346742)
...no.

yes

Niamh. 09-06-2017 11:40 AM

maybe?

Smithy 09-06-2017 11:40 AM

:laugh3: piss off! have you seen the amount **** Corbin has had to put up with this entire campaign

Vicky. 09-06-2017 11:41 AM

Nope. I know better than any how the headlines talk ****.

May takes a little crap for her awful decision and terrible campaign and all of a sudden its toys out of pram.

Vicky. 09-06-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9346748)
:laugh3: piss off! have you seen the amount **** Corbin has had to put up with this entire campaign

Or this^

May has just got into bed with a party that is anti womans rights, and anti gay rights...for a 3 seat majority ffs. She deserves some stick here

Niamh. 09-06-2017 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346751)
Or this^

May has just got into bed with a party that is anti womans rights, and anti gay rights...for a 3 seat majority ffs. She deserves some stick here

Oh God, now look what you've done......... :hehe:

Smithy 09-06-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9346754)
Oh God, now look what you've done......... :hehe:

Gays and women have too many rights anyway they are taking away the rights of the STRAIGHT MALE, this is a GOOD THING

bots 09-06-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9346747)
maybe?

strong and .... :laugh:

Quote:

She has 44% of the public vote which is the highest since 1983
she has a 57 seat majority over labour and only 8 seats short of an overall majority. The DUP just add the essential 8 , they are right wing so its not the coalition of chaos the likes of bitter ex chancellor george osbourne claims in his poisonous paper.

All this in the middle of the absolute chaos of brexit after everyone else quit from gove to cameron to boris etc ONLY may took on the phenomenal task of facing brexit...she pushed through article 50. another mighty challenge. our media is so hyper criticial yet the task shes had has needed someone almost super human to deal with...imagine dealing with brexit? going through 10000s of laws over 50 odd years entangling 30 nations and over 500 million people? and a party that is killing itself with a civil war over europe

Is it any wonder the electorate is volatile?

At the end of the day she asked for an election as she needed to be voted in legitimately, she hasnt got a clear majority but she has won and she is rightly the prime minister. The economy is doing well since she has taken over too, the markets are booming, growth has exceeded expectations, unemployed has fallen...I suggest give her a bit of respect now and allow her time to try and go into battle with those EU bigwigs. Its time we unite and do battle for britain

I don't think we are being too hard on her. She was a remainer that then started preaching an uncompromising, undebatable brexit. She has such a small circle that she trusts that she didn't have consensus from her cabinet or mp's on her campaign and manifesto. So when she ran into trouble, she had no-one to turn to, to give her support and assistance. She has to take 100% of the responsibility

Tom4784 09-06-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9346748)
:laugh3: piss off! have you seen the amount **** Corbin has had to put up with this entire campaign

This, she's had it easy this election.

Barely any of the media has pulled her up on her vagueness, her refusal to answer certain questions and the fact that she never actually says anything. They've given her an easy ride regarding her u-turns and they've largely ignored the fact that she is basically Trump's bitch and her problematic selling of weapons to the middle east (But hey, let's call Corbyn a traitor for untrue and tenuous stories!).

The media is a joke and she deserves no sympathy because this is a mess of her own making.

Niamh. 09-06-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9346766)
Gays and women have too many rights anyway they are taking away the rights of the STRAIGHT MALE, this is a GOOD THING

It's true

Brillopad 09-06-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9346748)
:laugh3: piss off! have you seen the amount **** Corbin has had to put up with this entire campaign

And there were no reasons for that of course. If you are in politics watch who you associate with. Not rocket science.

user104658 09-06-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9346722)
Nah youre just repeating parrot fashion some sensationalised headlines....She called it to have her own mandate to deal with the nightmare of brexit... Brown got in the back door, like may, he ducked a general election and it cost him. may showed bottle , shes now prime minster through the front door... I think the election will be good for democracy. But she needs to carry on now and do a job as the legitimately elected prime minister

She specifically called it to increase the conservative Westminster majority as a madate for hard Brexit. That was the entire plan and it backfired spectacularly - not only did she fail to achieve a large majority, she LOST the small majority that she already had :facepalm:. You can't rewrite history now and claim it was called "so that she would be the legitimately elected PM"... that's not why it was called.

Especially when there's a not-too-small chance she will now be REPLACED as PM.

user104658 09-06-2017 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9346772)
And there were no reasons for that of course. If you are in politics watch who you associate with. Not rocket science.

... ... I'm sure you can appreciate the irony in that when the Tories are getting into bed with the DUP.

Oliver_W 09-06-2017 12:05 PM

Getting anything less than a majority against Jeremy bloody Corbyn deserves a fair bit of criticism.

Withano 09-06-2017 12:10 PM

Her historic landslide majority wasnt even a win technically, tories have the right to be naffed. I think Labour voters kinda like her, she pretty much gave us ten or so seats with her terrible campaign.

Vanessa 09-06-2017 12:14 PM

She's someone I really can't stand. Reminds me of Carol, who was always moaning :omgno: The only one I dislike more is that bigheaded twat Tom. Quite like Imran, but he's dull.

Kazanne 09-06-2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9346705)
She should have walked it though. She threw this away.

The arrogance of calling a vote when she was leading massively in the polls (after saying she wouldnt too...) when an election wasn't needed...at a time where even SHE says Brexit negotiations should have been concentrated on.

She should have walked it and I just think her manifesto was political suicide,there was nothing that appealed to a lot of voters,I do think the media are being overly harsh,she took a gamble and it failed, I was going to vote for her in the end i didn't vote because of the foxhunting issue, and I wasn't too keen on some of Corbyns proposals,so opted out, but him calling for her to resign annoyed me a bit as he was told by his own party to resign several times,he didn't he plodded on,so why shouldn't TM try and make the best of this.She won more votes than Blair did in a landslide majority

user104658 09-06-2017 12:22 PM

The thing is... she's incompetent and under-qualified and would never have had the job if Cameron hadn't bailed. It's that simple, really. She's a bad public speaker, she can't think on her feet, and she isn't in any way likable or relatable on a personal level.

I mean... even Cameron you could see yourself having dinner or a drink with, it would be annoying and he'd say a load of annoying Tory ****, but I lived with a hardcore Tory boy at Uni for two years who did that and you could still have a game of pool and a pint with him. Well, he drank gin, but you get the gist. He was OK-ish so long as you avoided politics, y'know? You could make fun of him for his plummy private-school-glasgow accent and stuff.

MAY though... May and her fields of wheat... she's just awkward and unlikable. There's no two ways about that. You wouldn't be able to have a conversation with her, she doesn't have personal opinions, she just goes with whatever she thinks (sometimes misguidedly, it turns out) people want to hear.

Stu 09-06-2017 12:27 PM

The DUP are an extremist party endorsed by active paramilitary groups that commit terrorist acts. After the events in Manchester and London, is it appropriate for them to be in coalition with the Conservatives?

What a grand marriage of septic minds.


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