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ethanjames 12-06-2017 11:28 AM

is arthur on the autistic spectrum?
 
I saw a thread on twitter saying that Arthur was showing signs that he was autistic and it had got me wondering if anybody else had noticed that? my younger brother is autistic so I can commonly pick up certain signs and he does seem to show symptom's of it.

snail69 12-06-2017 11:38 AM

This was mentioned in another thread. I also have thought this during the last two episodes to be honest as well. For me it's his social awkwardness that sticks out more than anything.

He's clearly quite intelligent but he just doesn't seem to know how to act around others.

Obviously, his whole time in there could have just been an act from him but he definitely showed signs of being autistic if it wasn't.

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ethanjames 12-06-2017 11:51 AM

QUOTE=snail69;9354497]This was mentioned in another thread. I also have thought this during the last two episodes to be honest as well. For me it's his social awkwardness that sticks out more than anything.

He's clearly quite intelligent but he just doesn't seem to know how to act around others.

Obviously, his whole time in there could have just been an act from him but he definitely showed signs of being autistic if it wasn't.

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Yes he clearly is very smart but he just seems to be very socially awkward. His only friend seems to be raph who is very calm and comforting and tries to see things from different perspectives. It would explain why he got so annoyed about the carrot as most people on the spectrum have some kind of routine and when its changed it can trigger something. Once again it could be an act but he is clearly showing signs he is on the spectrum.

Epic. 12-06-2017 12:03 PM

He isn't, I would know

letmein 12-06-2017 12:24 PM

Reminded me of Aspergers.

Withano 12-06-2017 12:32 PM

I think he was just brought up with little discipline and never needed to show regard for others, cos he can have what he wants, whenever he wants it...

Looking over the DSM-5 checklist, I dont actually think he meets any of the 6 criteria for it

Epic. 12-06-2017 01:33 PM

As an autistic person myself, Arthur is not autistic just because he thinks differently and has social difficulties. Makes no sense.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 9354703)
As an autistic person myself, Arthur is not autistic just because he thinks differently and has social difficulties. Makes no sense.

you say that but I'm autistic and so is my brother and we both act very alike to him.

Epic. 12-06-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ethanjames (Post 9354710)
you say that but I'm autistic and so is my brother and we both act very alike to him.

Just because you find him similar to you doesn't immediately constitute him as autistic

ethanjames 12-06-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9354590)
I think he was just brought up with little discipline and never needed to show regard for others, cos he can have what he wants, whenever he wants it...

Looking over the DSM-5 checklist, I dont actually think he meets any of the 6 criteria for it


Actually it seemed like he did somewhat but he wasn't exactly sure how to phrase it. I don't think he thought he could do whatever he wanted I think he just got frustrated when something didn't work for routine. looking back he sympathised with quite a few people. We only see 45 mins of their whole day so its pretty arguable to think that they cut out bits purposely where he does go under the checklist.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 9354715)
Just because you find him similar to you doesn't immediately constitute him as autistic


and just because they don't act exactly like you it doesn't mean they aren't on the spectrum.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 9354574)
Reminded me of Aspergers.

Possibly or maybe a type of autism which isn't as common so people don't automatically assume hes on the spectrum.

mizzy25 12-06-2017 01:49 PM

yes I thought so too

Withano 12-06-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ethanjames (Post 9354720)
Actually it seemed like he did somewhat but he wasn't exactly sure how to phrase it. I don't think he thought he could do whatever he wanted I think he just got frustrated when something didn't work for routine. looking back he sympathised with quite a few people. We only see 45 mins of their whole day so its pretty arguable to think that they cut out bits purposely where he does go under the checklist.

Which aspects of the checklist do you think he meets? His routine behaviour doesnt exist, his frustration was not being able to cope without cigarettes, and is extremely common withdrawel based behaviour.

Your best piece of evidence for his autistic traits is that we only see 45 minutes, so there might be parts in the other 23 hours that would fit

Tregard 12-06-2017 02:30 PM

I didn't get that vibe, he just seemed isolated

Shaun 12-06-2017 02:32 PM

There seems to be a rush to describe every outsider and loner as autistic with every new series and it's a little bit...disturbing.

Vicky. 12-06-2017 02:54 PM

I actually thought this. My best mate from school has Aspergers Syndrome and he reminded me a LOT of her. It looked like much more than simply not being comfortable.

Epic. 12-06-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9354769)
There seems to be a rush to describe every outsider and loner as autistic with every new series and it's a little bit...disturbing.

This

Jessica. 12-06-2017 03:03 PM

Aspergers doesn't get diagnosed any more btw.

I don't think he has high functioning autism though, I act similarly to him in some respects, not knowing how to act in social situations and stuff like that but I haven't been diagnosed with anything like that. Some people just grew up like this without having some kind of condition to cause it.

Vicky. 12-06-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 9354799)
Aspergers doesn't get diagnosed any more btw.

I don't think he has high functioning autism though, I act similarly to him in some respects, not knowing how to act in social situations and stuff like that but I haven't been diagnosed with anything like that. Some people just grew up like this without having some kind of condition to cause it.

Does it not, why? Thats a bit weird as I am pretty sure it still exists :S

ethanjames 12-06-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9354765)
Which aspects of the checklist do you think he meets? His routine behaviour doesnt exist, his frustration was not being able to cope without cigarettes, and is extremely common withdrawel based behaviour.

Your best piece of evidence for his autistic traits is that we only see 45 minutes, so there might be parts in the other 23 hours that would fit

You cannot judge somebody due to what a list says as the spectrum is very large and people react in very different ways. I wasn't diagnosed with autism until I was 14 and a lot of people are misjudged because of their very "flawed" way of diagnosing people. that being said he goes under the first sector well with not being able to communicate with people in the same way everyone else does. it is all up for discussion once again but I watch big brother with my family and they agree with me. but I might obviously be wrong and I have just misjudged everything :)

Jessica. 12-06-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9354803)
Does it not, why? Thats a bit weird as I am pretty sure it still exists :S

There is just a scale of autism, low functioning to high functioning, aspergers was just another name for high functioning autism. With early intervention, people can move up the spectrum, for example going from non-verbal to verbal, which means going from lower functioning to higher functioning. Advancement in therapy and intervention basically blurred the lines between low functioning and high functioning so it's not really practical to give high functioning autism a different diagnosis any more.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tregard (Post 9354768)
I didn't get that vibe, he just seemed isolated

I don't think he was isolated as he did "attempt" to get himself involved. that being said you can never know for sure.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9354769)
There seems to be a rush to describe every outsider and loner as autistic with every new series and it's a little bit...disturbing.

I wouldn't exactly describe Arthur as an outsider. that being said this is my first time being invested in big brother and I usually don't jump to conclusions but Arthur seems to be a little bit different to everyone else. not that this could result to him being autistic of course but he does show quite a few symptoms and I wouldn't cross it out as a possibility.

ethanjames 12-06-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9354786)
I actually thought this. My best mate from school has Aspergers Syndrome and he reminded me a LOT of her. It looked like much more than simply not being comfortable.


EXACTLY!! there is a difference than being autistic and isolated. he just didn't seem to connect in the way everyone else did which is a real shame. also people on the spectrum often become attached to people in the house and for Arthur that was probably raph who is kind and different to the other housemates as he is a lot quieter.


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