What Isabelle said wasn't bad
 

Lotan totally overreacted. It's like the Rebecca daughter thing, she didn't say anything about his son - she just said he was a poor role model. WHich he is. He was being ****ing vile to her before it all kicked off

He can't have realistically expected to keep on insulting her looks for her not to retaliate in the slightest.

Exactly. He was treating her terribly and she pointed that out, calmly

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Lotan has insulted her from when she came in about her looks intelligence etc, and what rattled him was the fact she stood up to him, without shouting and screaming. I agree what she said about his son was not that bad, what we have seen of his attitude in there to woman in general, he is no role model in my opinion.
Sam could have been in if it was not for his ego, ruling the other two.

I can't believe he proved her right so effortlessly

She wasn't wrong either. He is a terrible role model.

After his comments tonight she is right. Isabelle speaks the truth

It wasn't bad because it wasn't a lie. He's been nothing but narcissistic, aggressive all sprinkled with sexist undertones throughout his stay... and now his employers are doing their best to distance themselves from him. Anyone trying to argue he was somehow a victim in all this is as delusional as Lotan was.

Retaliating by bringing his parenting and that into it though IS pretty low, the whole house (including those who dislike Lotan) agreed and even Isabelle herself agreed in the garden.

Most of this foprum would agree if it wasn't Lotan tbh :tongue:

I remember absolute hell on when someone said something about McCleans kid that was along the same lines as this...'BB has nothing to do with parenting' and so on.

Absolutely spot on :thumbs:

She didn't say he was a bad parent though she just said he wasn't a good role model and he really isn't.

They overreacted, as expected. It wasn't as bad as most of the stuff they've said towards her, shes been treated so poorly these past few days, they can give it but can't take it at all. Lets not pretend that nearly everything that came out of her mouth about Lotan isn't true either

Wouldn't personally say that to anyone in any situation without knowing how someone was as a parent never mind in front of 800,000 people on TV when you have just met them

Can give it but can't take it.

I have to disagree, it was a low blow, dont bring in children, Lotan was being horrible to her and she took it to far. I agree with Chanelle and Raph, she should have stuck to attacking him. I kinda went off her.

I mean Nicola wasn't woman-beating or physically aggressive soooo

Also the fact that Nicola's response was "yeah and you're not a mother" and that was it (and not lashing a drink at people and threatening to physically and mentally destroy a woman he's known for less than a week) just speaks wonders about the comments made

How many children do you have?

She shouldn't have said it, but it's still right. I mean hopefully he would've thought "oh **** my child will grow up and see and hear about me threatening to physically and mentally destroy a younger woman for the rest of his lie" but nah

Yeah I'm gonna diagree. Not that I am defending anything that happened tonight but what was said about Lotan was a bit more personal that what was said to Joe which was a more general comment.

Indeed.

**** all :)

Chanelle is right. If Lotan or someone else from that side said something like this it wouldn't be a big deal but because It's Isabelle they all acted like she killed someone.

It's also not really that bad since Lotan went low with her first about a) repeatedly mocking her appearance and b) constantly talking down and demeaning her opinions whenever she opened her mouth

He's somebody's father!!!