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Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:02 AM

Now the Alpha has been defeated what will happen to his group?
 
Will they fall apart and form little groups? Will the house divide disappear and they will all get on? Will some else from the group step into Lotans shoes and regroup? (If so who?)

Sophia. 26-06-2017 11:03 AM

I have a feeling Tom might take his place or even Ellie, I'm not too sure though.

supertv247 26-06-2017 11:04 AM

I actually think that fight might have made things worse.. Ellie and Tom will hate Isabelle and the sisters now, and probably Chanelle too. Things could either get worse, or if someone like Ellie/Tom go it could all slowly fade away until there's no real clique left.

Jordan. 26-06-2017 11:06 AM

I think Joe will take over as their leader

Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophia. (Post 9395646)
I have a feeling Tom might take his place or even Ellie, I'm not too sure though.

I don't think they would follow Tom like they did Lotan. I think the only contenders would be Ellie or Joe but I'm not sure Joe involves himself when they "pack attack" so probably not him. I actually think Savannah could become a surprise leader too

Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 9395655)
I think Joe will take over as their leader

I don't think he will. He never really gets involved in the ganging up. He's very nasty to people but atleast when he is, he does it on his own only and he's done it to people in the "clique" as well (Rebecca) so i don't think he's interested in running a gang

bots 26-06-2017 11:10 AM

Tom is incapable of leading that lot and he is on a final warning, he will be laying low for a few days until after friday (when he thinks the eviction will happen)

Joe ... no one would take him seriously, he is like the uncle in the Sopranos :laugh:

If i was to hazard a guess, i would say Savannah, she has the least to lose out of the remainder who all have a shot at winning the show and won't be rocking any boats

Sophia. 26-06-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9395658)
I don't think they would follow Tom like they did Lotan. I think the only contenders would be Ellie or Joe but I'm not sure Joe involves himself when they "pack attack" so probably not him. I actually think Savannah could become a surprise leader too

Aww Savannah! She seems quite sneaky so it wouldn't surprise me.

Jordan. 26-06-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9395664)
I don't think he will. He never really gets involved in the ganging up. He's very nasty to people but atleast when he is, he does it on his own only and he's done it to people in the "clique" as well (Rebecca) so i don't think he's interested in running a gang

He doesn't have to attack people to be the leader of the clique. I just think they will look up to him now and be influenced by who he dislikes most and do his dirty work for him.

Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9395668)
Tom is incapable of leading that lot and he is on a final warning, he will be laying low for a few days until after friday (when he thinks the eviction will happen)

Joe ... no one would take him seriously, he is like the uncle in the Sopranos :laugh:

If i was to hazard a guess, i would say Savannah, she has the least to lose out of the remainder who all have a shot at winning the show and won't be rocking any boats

Yep, I think this too, she's also clever enough not to cross lines but cause alot of trouble and let others do her dirty work. A potential match for Isabelle

Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 9395671)
He doesn't have to attack people to be the leader of the clique. I just think they will look up to him now and be influenced by who he dislikes most and do his dirty work for him.

Maybe but I don't think alot of them even like him that much tbh

Withano 26-06-2017 11:15 AM

I dont think the divide will be as strong without him.. the main thing they had in common was their love for Lotan.

Kieran has nothing in common with any of them, and Charlotte seems close to only Ellie.
Plus with Tom out on Friday and the negative crowd reaction for the majority of them, I think they'll naturally disband then if not sooner.

y.winter 26-06-2017 11:16 AM

It will start to fall apart.
I would even go and say that Lotan's removal is more of a disaster for the unpopular group than for the clique. They lost their main rivalry (Lotan, the only one who could play that part), and it killed the conflict. It's too big for Tom to take control, Joe doesn't really have a say in the clique and Kieran doesn't look for confrontations. The girls are not fiery enough to call the shots either.

Vicky. 26-06-2017 11:17 AM

I actually think the divide could be worse than ever. The most intense parts of last night weren't even anything to do with Lotan.

Niamh. 26-06-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9395688)
It will start to fall apart.
I would even go and say that Lotan's removal is more of a disaster for the unpopular group than for the clique. They lost their main rivalry (Lotan, the only one who could play that part), and it killed the conflict. It's too big for Tom to take control, Joe doesn't really have a say in the clique and Kieran doesn't look for confrontations. The girls are not fiery enough to call the shots either.

Yeah 100%, this is where we get to see how smart Raph really is at reading the game. He should make an effort now to patch things up to endear himself to the public, trying to stir up more drama with the wounded clique will make Raphs group disliked at this point I think

bots 26-06-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9395685)
I dont think the divide will be as strong without him.. the main thing they had in common was their love for Lotan.

Kieran has nothing in common with any of them, and Charlotte seems close to only Ellie.
Plus with Tom out on Friday and the negative crowd reaction for the majority of them, I think they'll naturally disband then if not sooner.

Tom wont be out on Thursday, watch him disappear for a few days :laugh:

Raph needs there to be a focal point more than anyone, that's how he controls his lot by targeting their aggression. Savannah would be ideal

Northern Monkey 26-06-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9395692)
I actually think the divide could be worse than ever. The most intense parts of last night weren't even anything to do with Lotan.

It could go either way.It could be the sisters and Chanelle vs Ellie for a while with Tom backing up Ellie but then Chanelle backing down and mediating.Chanelle could be the one to bring them all back together in the end.

Jordan. 26-06-2017 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9395692)
I actually think the divide could be worse than ever. The most intense parts of last night weren't even anything to do with Lotan.

The only ones who can really kick off now is the girls. Kieran doesn't get involved and I can't see Tom pushing his luck after the final warning.

Withano 26-06-2017 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9395716)
Tom wont be out on Thursday, watch him disappear for a few days :laugh:

I hope you're wrong! :fc: I dont think he'll disappear, I think he'll try and protect Lotans honour and take Lotans place as the new enemy#1 for a lot of viewers

Crimson Dynamo 26-06-2017 11:31 AM

There is nothing that binds a group than a common enemy (look at how Jose Mourinho operates)

Now they have no one to dislike then perhaps the group will dissolve?

Northern Monkey 26-06-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9395747)
There is nothing that binds a group than a common enemy (look at how Jose Mourinho operates)

Now they have no one to dislike then perhaps the group will dissolve?

Or they'll pick a new enemy

girlfighter1992 26-06-2017 12:10 PM

There is no divide now Lotan has gone

armand.kay 26-06-2017 02:52 PM

They will crumble


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