Brillos Corbyn thread
 

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ion-tories-win

Talk about count his chickens. Corbyn's ego defines him. He thinks he has it in the bag with all his bribery, at the taxpayers' expense - but so far he's all talk. To see that ego and all his huffing and puffing deflate would be interesting to say the least.

There's nothing like an old fool who is standing at the gates of the last chance saloon.

This hysterical 'hero worship' thing going on with some Labour voters reminds me of Christmas and the must have Christmas toy debacle - childish, desperate fads with a hidden agenda from those desperate to sell something. Works well on the young and naive.

And the hopeful desperate for an end to the pressure placed on the most vulnerable. Times they are a changin, for the better. You have to ask yourself in all seriousness taking wages, caps, austerity, housing, the NHS how could things get any worse?

The age of 'I'm alright Jack' is coming to an end, they have stretched the public conscience to capacity and now we are seeing the snap back, I'm very glad to say.
Corbyn isn't alone in his stance within the Labour movement, he is one of many social reformers who still believe in the ethos instilled when the Labour party was created.

Many were well aware of the danger to infrastructure posed by the tories due to their relentless privatisation, environmental and foreign policies. Corbyn is one man, it is ridiculous to suggest it is simply his personal opinion that draws support. What he has done is highlight areas that were conveniently hidden.

Like the £1 billion that May just bought the UDP's support with you mean ? Bribes don't get much bigger or more unethical than that!

It's time for the old crone and her party of out of touch farts to step aside and let King Corbyn take his rightful place upon his throne. Maybe then he can start cleaning up this mess that May has made of our Country.

Age is a funny thing, isn't it. There's Theresa May described as an "Old Crone" alongside a supportive message for Corbyn, who is older than she is. You can't beat a bit of intelligent political debate right?

If Corbyn gets in next time - and he has plenty of time for people to wake up before then - it'll be the same as it always is. Labour will spend all the cash, people will vote the Tories back in, they'll have to make cuts and the whole merry-go-round begins again.

Good, spend some money, invest in the future. look at this graph... post war reforms and we go into surplus, so don't tell me that austerity and scaling back public services and welfare is the route out from the deficit.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/in...chartDp03t.png

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk...ficit_analysis

One of the most important deciding factors in elections should be border policies. With the migrant crisis in Europe having adverse effects in places like Germany, Austria, and especially Sweden, keeping tight borders should be a priority.
... Yes, May's been rubbish with immigration, but at least she claims to want to limit migration, unlike Corbyn, who's pro-open borders.

I completely agree. Without tight borders we won't have much else - and safety and security will become bigger and bigger issues.

I dunno, the polls were very accurate this time around, and hes got a hefty margin in them at the moment...
But chances are, that one day, eventually, surely? Torys will do something that isnt completely tragic? And voters might swing back in to their favour... cuts to the emergency forces didnt help, nor did creating a coalition with the DUP. But like they might stop being tragic soon. Maybe... Surely?

"The party leader’s name reverberates, but the old leftwing assumption of inevitable victory is his Achilles heel."

An assumption of inevitable victory IS an Achilles hell, always, in any circumstance but calling it a "leftwing assumption"? In 2017? After this last election? ... ... ... ..... really, though?

It was the assumption of (dramatic) victory that lead the Tories to call a GE in the first place, AND to drag their heels on the campaign trail :think:. I don't think you can call something "leftwing" when the Tories have just literally done the exact same thing within the last 6 months.

No its Corbyn Vs whoever the New leader of conservative's
is in 2022.

From all polls Labour can win it.

Anyone of the working/middle classes that would continue to vote Tories after the ****show that has been the last election and the unethical bribing and subsequent bull**** that followed do not love themselves. It is nothing but wilful ignorance to ignore everything that has happened.

Then again people who blindly vote for one party without understanding what they are voting for just to prevent someone they dislike from becoming PM deserve what they get for their ignorance. Vote on policies that you agree with, voting for something just because it's opposed to something else is utter foolishness.

Did students vote for Corbyn twice watchdog demands urgent action
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...urgent-action/

Very interesting!!!

"evidence that thousands of people registered to vote multiple times, as many as 70 per cent of residents in some areas"

Bull**** :facepalm:

I believe they would

Yes because voting fraud only ever helps the side you don't like

Ah, the Tories and their supporters must be getting desperate if they are resorting to what is essentially Voter Suppression.

The majority of students didn't vote for a Tory government and they aren't going to in the future, this is just an attempt to disparage and discourage a demographic that isn't favourable to the Tories from voting in the future. It's fairly transparent.

The Tories aren't likely going to retain power in the next election, instead of trying to discourage people from voting they should perhaps think about why they did so **** in this election and learn from their mistakes.

Yes this needs to be investigated and fast!

No, they are too busy participating in illegal voting. They have such faith in Corbyn they CHEAT.

Oh those on the left were so quick to accuse the tories of this, that and the other, when all the time Labour had their own dirty little secret.

No surprises there!

Okay, I see you have nothing of value to add to what I said then. Just more Corbyn obsession on your part with nothing of substance or interest to back it up.

Every response you come up with is either 'Corbyn this! 'Corbyn that!' or 'I know you are but what am I?' It's so very dull. I know what you'll write before you write it.

This thread is about the Students behaviour and the steps they will go to to get those free uni fees, not Corbyn's.

:pat:

So you went for the 'I know you are but what am I?' approach.....even though it was you that brought up Corbyn in the first place....follow your own advice and stick to the topic, perhaps?

Also not you've replied to me twice without uttering a single word about what I actually said so yeah.

Yes because I obviously voted here and then did the 12 hour round trip to vote again at home.


Idiots.

Erm, I think you'll find my vote was actually decided by the things Corbyn wanted to bring to the table that would benefit the entire UK. Tuition fees don't bother me! It was my choice to go to university.

They're trying to pull a Trump, last I heard his administration was trying to push through 'anti-voting fraud' laws that essentially was voter suppression by a different name.

It's fairly blatant that this is just an attempt to dissuade students from voting in future since they proved to be an influential part of this election that weren't in the Tories' favour.

What rubbish - if people are voting legitimately why would they be dissuaded. If they have nothing to hide they have no reason to be put off.