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Brillopad 07-11-2017 06:26 PM

Corbyn appoints convicted fraudster to parliamentary office
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...entary-office/

Don’t think this should be allowed. How can someone like her be trusted. It would also concern me that a party leader would think it was okay.

It rather feels that with everything going on with the sex scandal in the Tory party at the moment that maybe some advantage has been taken of that in the belief that less notice would be taken of the opposition appointing a criminal into office. All very sneaky.

joeysteele 07-11-2017 06:56 PM

Not his wisest move, however this conviction is over a decade ago.

If we aim for rehabilition after crime and if there is no re-offendimg then a further chance should be possible for employment.

I would have maybe thought twice but he felt able to discount an 11 year old conviction, and give an opportunity now for her to move forward again.

Beso 07-11-2017 07:06 PM

Fraud and false accounting, she will fit right in.

Brillopad 07-11-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9685048)
Not his wisest move, however this conviction is over a decade ago.

If we aim for rehabilition after crime and if there is no re-offendimg then a further chance should be possible for employment.

I would have maybe thought twice but he felt able to discount an 11 year old conviction, and give an opportunity now for her to move forward again.

But she rigged votes and with potential elections coming up in a few years people will always wonder. It’s a recipe for disaster in my opinion.

joeysteele 07-11-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9685089)
But she rigged votes and with potential elections coming up in a few years people will always wonder. It’s a recipe for disaster in my opinion.

I actually agree.
I probably wouldn't have taken the risk.

You could well be right as to it being a recipe for disaster.
Although there appears to be loads of those recipes all around Westminster and politics at present.

DemolitionRed 07-11-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9685077)
Fraud and false accounting, she will fit right in.

Please elaborate?

DemolitionRed 07-11-2017 07:33 PM

I think its a stupid move.

jet 07-11-2017 07:48 PM

Corbyn has always had a fondness for and empathy with shady characters, including terrorists. A fraudster wouldn't cause him a moments concern.

smudgie 07-11-2017 07:53 PM

Anything goes these days...or so it appears.
Time for the whole shower to clean up their act.

Brillopad 07-11-2017 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9685125)
Corbyn has always had a fondness for and empathy with shady characters, including terrorists. A fraudster wouldn't cause him a moments concern.

Hi Jet. At best it’s stupid. Questions and allegations will always be raised. It strikes me as courting controversy - very arrogant in my opinion.

Beso 07-11-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9685115)
Please elaborate?

She will be clearing up jeremys off shore accounts as i type.

DemolitionRed 07-11-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9685130)
She will be clearing up jeremys off shore accounts as i type.

Is that a presumption? I mean, do we have evidence that Corbyn has an offshore account? you know, like all those Tory names that are are coming out? or is this just a way of deflecting away from the corruption of the Tory government?

Beso 07-11-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9685164)
Is that a presumption? I mean, do we have evidence that Corbyn has an offshore account? you know, like all those Tory names that are are coming out? or is this just a way of deflecting away from the corruption of the Tory government?



They are all corrupt fgs.

joeysteele 07-11-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9685126)
Anything goes these days...or so it appears.
Time for the whole shower to clean up their act.

Very good point.
It may be the case that on fact for a long time now things have needed to be cleaned up and also tightened up.

Over time up to the present,it seems the rot has escalated.
At last hopefully with all leaders and all Parties involved in addressing and dealing with the whole sorry,sordid affairs,things may improve.
One can hope they will anyway.

Brillopad 08-11-2017 07:23 AM

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...suspended-amid

It doesn’t rain but it pours.

Beso 08-11-2017 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9685200)
Very good point.
It may be the case that on fact for a long time now things have needed to be cleaned up and also tightened up.

Over time up to the present,it seems the rot has escalated.
At last hopefully with all leaders and all Parties involved in addressing and dealing with the whole sorry,sordid affairs,things may improve.
One can hope they will anyway.

Is jeremy leeding by example?...no..and this appointment along with the appointment of the sex scandal bloke kinda proves his finger is way off the pulse.

joeysteele 08-11-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9685518)
Is jeremy leeding by example?...no..and this appointment along with the appointment of the sex scandal bloke kinda proves his finger is way off the pulse.

For goodness sake.

The Leaders have only met and discussed plans on Monday.
Politics is rife with bad appointments in the last few decades and recent past in ALL Parties.
The lot of them.

Be as selective in only singling out one leader and party all you like but don't expect others to consider that fair or the only instance/s.

Kizzy 08-11-2017 08:03 AM

Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Brillopad 08-11-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9685535)
Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Only when you have a closed mind and an agenda. It is a valid point. Is appointing a convicted vote rigger a wise decision when she will likely be involved in future elections. It will likely open the flood gates as far as future vote rigging allegations are concerned. Do the Labour Party really need that sort of publicity.

Kizzy 08-11-2017 08:42 AM

Closed mind? it's been in the public domain for over a year...

“I foolishly signed council papers to say that I had completed work that I hadn’t, which involved signing the details of whoever occupied the address to be an accurate record — details that were already on the electoral roll.

“I admitted to doing this on 20 forms — which amounted to fraudulently claiming £21.15".

In 2016 Momentum issued a statement about Ms Thompson's criminal past, saying “Marsha-Jane’s conviction is now spent. She has always been open about the conviction, which she still deeply regrets, with her employers.”

This 'expose' is nothing but a clumsy deflection. Is it in the same ball park as the expenses scandal...is that up for discussion?

joeysteele 08-11-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9685535)
Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Sadly so Kizzy.

I made an effort to discuss this in a balanced way rather than just from selective dislike of individual or Party.
Sadly that apears impossible to do.

The more worrying thing about this is, someone pleading guilty to a wrong/crime,who is then given a legal punishment,duly completed too..
Who after 11 years on from that now spent conviction, should according to a few here,never get given work again.

It makes you wonder why we bother with a judicial system of crime and then punishment /rehabilitation.
Perhaps we should just leave it to these armchair kangaroo uncompromising personal courts.

jet 08-11-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9685535)
Oh another pointless Corbyn bashing thread.

Don't shoot the messenger. Corbyn just keeps on giving.

Livia 08-11-2017 09:15 AM

It doesn't shock me. Politicians are an interesting breed. I wouldn't appoint an accountant who had a criminal background; I can see no reason why he should if he thinks he will be running the country at some point.

Brillopad 08-11-2017 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9685564)
Closed mind? it's been in the public domain for over a year...

“I foolishly signed council papers to say that I had completed work that I hadn’t, which involved signing the details of whoever occupied the address to be an accurate record — details that were already on the electoral roll.

“I admitted to doing this on 20 forms — which amounted to fraudulently claiming £21.15".

In 2016 Momentum issued a statement about Ms Thompson's criminal past, saying “Marsha-Jane’s conviction is now spent. She has always been open about the conviction, which she still deeply regrets, with her employers.”

This 'expose' is nothing but a clumsy deflection. Is it in the same ball park as the expenses scandal...is that up for discussion?

It also said that she admitted her crimes - her legal team were bound to offer up mitigating circumstances - in this case an accidental oversight, it’s what they do. Pretty predictable really.

jet 08-11-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9685588)
Sadly so Kizzy.

I made an effort to discuss this in a balanced way rather than just from selective dislike of individual or Party.
Sadly that apears impossible to do.

The more worrying thing about this is, someone pleading guilty to a wrong/crime,who is then given a legal punishment,duly completed too..
Who after 11 years on from that now spent conviction, should according to a few here,never get given work again.

It makes you wonder why we bother with a judicial system of crime and then punishment /rehabilitation.
Perhaps we should just leave it to these armchair kangaroo uncompromising personal courts.

Of course she should be given work again, just not in Government.


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