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Wizard. 11-11-2017 09:58 PM

Nicole confirms she wants to come back next year
 
She said she's been asked to go back and that she hopes she can. Fook off Cheryl!

reece(: 11-11-2017 09:59 PM

Because her solo career flopped and the theatre won't have ha back

LukeB 11-11-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9689729)
Because her solo career flopped and the theatre won't have ha back

most likely because she does love the attention and this show is the only way she gets it.

Jack_ 11-11-2017 10:13 PM

As I say in every thread about the judges, this panel works - they need to keep it. Consistency is key

RileyH 11-11-2017 10:33 PM

she should stay

Brekkie 12-11-2017 09:46 PM

All this talk of Cheryl coming back to save the show - it was her (and Simons) return last time that almost killed it off. It actually held up fairly well when Simon was off with the US version and though it took him two years to realise getting this panel back together was the best move he could make (though I'd prefer Gary over Louis).

As others have said the show needs consistency after years of constantly changing panels - and although I'm not sure Nicole is as entertaining this year as she has been in the past she can still give more to the show in 5 minutes than Cheryl would in an entire series.

If Nicole were to quit I think I'd rather Mel B back than Cheryl, or ideally Danni Minogue but that's not going to happen with Sharon around. Really though Simon should learn from Strictly and should a vacancy come up fill it with somebody who is technically qualified rather than just a name.

Oaker 12-11-2017 10:03 PM

The judging panel doesn't even matter at this point really, the show is dead, it has a couple more series in it and then it's over. It's continuing to decline massively year and year with no sign of slowing down and ultimately the judging panel isn't going to change that :shrug:. At this point it's best to hope they go for the most entertaining judges instead of being desperate for ratings, however (sadly) I think they believe that Simon/Nicole/Sharon/Louis is the most entertaining panel.

Marsh. 12-11-2017 10:04 PM

Simon, Gary, Sharon and Nicole next year please.

That might make me tune in for the auditions at least.

RileyH 12-11-2017 10:08 PM

The correct panel would be Tulisa, Nicole, Gary & Louis imo :idc:

Marsh. 12-11-2017 10:08 PM

Tulisa and Mel were both boring trash. Especially Mel. DULL AF.

reece(: 12-11-2017 10:11 PM

I forgot Mel was even a judge.

Jack_ 12-11-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brekkie (Post 9690950)
All this talk of Cheryl coming back to save the show - it was her (and Simons) return last time that almost killed it off. It actually held up fairly well when Simon was off with the US version and though it took him two years to realise getting this panel back together was the best move he could make (though I'd prefer Gary over Louis).

As others have said the show needs consistency after years of constantly changing panels - and although I'm not sure Nicole is as entertaining this year as she has been in the past she can still give more to the show in 5 minutes than Cheryl would in an entire series.

If Nicole were to quit I think I'd rather Mel B back than Cheryl, or ideally Danni Minogue but that's not going to happen with Sharon around. Really though Simon should learn from Strictly and should a vacancy come up fill it with somebody who is technically qualified rather than just a name.

Simon pissing off to the US is what destroyed X Factor UK. The year-on-year decline wasn't anything drastic but the rot soon began to set in and they went about it totally the wrong way. They had a series peaking with astronomical figures (2010), and then the next year replaced three of the four judges :conf: and Simon rather arrogantly just assumed it would continue to work. I'd say there were at least another two, maybe three series that could've continued in the 14-15m range had the panel remained the same - as I said, consistency is always key.

Then they changed the panel every year for six consecutive series and the decline just got worse. Compare this to BGT who found a panel that worked and stuck with it and it's quite remarkable. The panel we have now should've been in place from 2014 onwards.

Unfortunately, the damage is now done and there's absolutely no way this show is getting another contract extension (I was amazed they got one last year tbh). So their best bet is to try their hardest to stick with one that works, though I do agree that the first port of call of ex-judges if Nicole/Sharon leave should be Mel B (or dare I say Alexandra).

Oaker 12-11-2017 10:25 PM

tbf 2011 rated on par with 2010 (and sometimes better) up until the live shows so people clearly didn't hate the change in judges, I think they just didn't like who they chose to be the judges, rather than the change itself.

Ross. 12-11-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9690989)
I forgot Mel was even a judge.

I find that a little bit cheating

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...s_37_Mel_B.jpg

Jack_ 12-11-2017 10:32 PM

But then the show collapsed even further in 2012 when they changed the panel again (even if it was only one judge) so clearly it must have an effect. Shows like this need some sense of familiarity, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Worked for BGT up until this year

I just had a look back at the 2011 ratings too, and they lost 2 million after that dreadful first live show twist :skull: says it all

Marsh. 12-11-2017 10:44 PM

I think changing the format has done worse damage to X factor than changing the judging panel.

The gimmicks, twists, wildcards, cardboard randomising machines, double eliminations, six chair challenges, arena auditions killed the X factor.

Jack_ 12-11-2017 10:46 PM

Oh the gimmicks, twists and format changes definitely aren't helping - but there weren't too many of them in the immediate years that followed 2010, so I think the buck ultimately lies with the panel. I know people always say every year 'the show isn't about the judges' but it lowkey is? Or else there wouldn't be so much speculation (less so these days) about who'll be on it

Morgan. 12-11-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9691012)
I think changing the format has done worse damage to X factor than changing the judging panel.

The gimmicks, twists, wildcards, cardboard randomising machines, double eliminations, six chair challenges, arena auditions killed the X factor.

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Oaker 12-11-2017 10:47 PM

Isn't the six chair challenge the most popular stage of the X Factor now though?

I'm sure it gets the highest ratings.

Marsh. 12-11-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9691013)
Oh the gimmicks, twists and format changes definitely aren't helping - but there weren't too many of them in the immediate years that followed 2010, so I think the buck ultimately lies with the panel. I know people always say every year 'the show isn't about the judges' but it lowkey is? Or else there wouldn't be so much speculation (less so these days) about who'll be on it

Maybe. But I'm inclined to agree that it's the choice of judges (Kelly, Tulisa, Mel B, Rita and Nick) who didn't click with the audience rather than changes per se.

Oliver_W 13-11-2017 06:28 AM

Cheryl Cole was a bit boring, as judges go. Stick to the current line up <3

Brekkie 15-11-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9690993)
I do agree that the first port of call of ex-judges if Nicole/Sharon leave should be Mel B (or dare I say Alexandra).

OK.com

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Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 9691015)
Isn't the six chair challenge the most popular stage of the X Factor now though?

I'm sure it gets the highest ratings.

I think you're right. Most years until the last couple of series the audition stage held up quite well but since 2011 or so the live shows is where the ratings have fallen when really they should be growing. The Sunday results show probably held up better than the performance show though, so although a revamp of the live shows was long overdue I suspect they've gone the wrong way about it.

Denver 15-11-2017 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9691021)
Maybe. But I'm inclined to agree that it's the choice of judges (Kelly, Tulisa, Mel B, Rita and Nick) who didn't click with the audience rather than changes per se.

Tulisa was quite popular with viewers especially the 1st year

Marsh. 15-11-2017 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9693747)
Tulisa was quite popular with viewers especially the 1st year

Not even a little bit.

Denver 15-11-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9693752)
Not even a little bit.

Ern yes she was


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