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James 14-12-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9738674)
how does this affect the proposed buy out of Sky by fox? Does it mean we will now get a fluffy Sky News :dance:

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 9738688)
It means the shares will change to Disney
may help the takeover speed UP


SkyNewsHD
and Ch4HD news are the best


That Glass Box
Very UnAmerican

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9738690)
if anything, it will likely slow it down more as it will be going to an even bigger organisation

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545

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What does it mean for Sky?

In the UK, Fox is in the midst of a bid to buy the part of the broadcaster Sky that it doesn't already own. That bid is being investigated by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), which is due to publish provisional findings in January.

The BBC understands that the Disney deal will not alter that CMA investigation.

If the Sky purchase is approved, that deal would probably go through before the Disney purchase of Fox assets. So the whole of Sky would then be likely to transfer to Disney's ownership.

If not, then just the 39% of Sky currently in Fox's stable passes to Disney.

Rupert Murdoch said: "If things go wrong, the existing [Sky] shares go to Disney. It will be up to them to decide what to do."

Either way Sky's future will lie primarily in Disney's hands.
I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.

bitontheslide 14-12-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 9739019)
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545



I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.

Disney are incredibly image conscience, so i'm not sure things like Sky Atlantic or Sky News will be a good fit in its portfolio

Tom4784 14-12-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9739053)
Disney are incredibly image conscience, so i'm not sure things like Sky Atlantic or Sky News will be a good fit in its portfolio

It's only when it comes to the Disney Brand itself, you could technically call the Kill Bill films Disney films as they were released by Miramax when Disney owned them.

You'll never see anything rated higher than a 12A released on the Disney Brand but they do own other studios that release less Disney friendly content. I don't think ownership of Sky Atlantic or Sky News would hurt them.

michael21 14-12-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 9739019)
From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42353545



I read before that this deal might put Sky News future in doubt because (I think) it loses money, and Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America.

Yes sky news could close but we still have sky sports news :amazed:

arista 15-12-2017 09:55 AM

[Disney are not really in the news business - aside from ABC in America]

No James
The Disney CEO Bob
has confirmed SkyNewsHD is staying.


Ref : SkyNewsHD Business news and CNN HD Money 2PM and 5PM, yesterday.

abc news is used alot on BBC news and BBC prime.


The 85 year old Rupert full interview , yesterday on the Ian king's business show,
https://news.sky.com/video/watch-rup...-full-11170849


please note sad virgin media does not have cnn in hd

Tom4784 15-12-2017 12:14 PM

Apparently they want to keep Deadpool as is, I've heard that the heads of Marvel and Disney are looking into creating an specific branding for the R-Rated superhero films.

Rob! 15-12-2017 01:10 PM

Rylan to be replaced by Goofy?

Toy Soldier 15-12-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9739936)
Apparently they want to keep Deadpool as is, I've heard that the heads of Marvel and Disney are looking into creating an specific branding for the R-Rated superhero films.

I'm not surprised really, in fact the Disney purchase of Fox could be seen as an indication that they're branching out in terms of the content they want to make and that may even be a part of their motivation for buying. There was at one point (the 2000's mainly) an idea that the best way to maximise movie revenue was to make absolutely everything PG-13 at most to maximise potential audience but it's kind of been proven not to be the case in recent years. For example, Terminators 1 and 2 having a massive following but everything since being trash - but now they're bringing back Cameron / Arnie / Linda Hamilton to semi-reboot (hitting rewind up until the end of T2) to make a "proper" R-rated sequel.

I think basically, similar to gaming, the "blockbuster loving generations" now contain a lot of adults who are keen to see films made FOR adults in the cinema... it's seen as a marketing tool in many cases rather than how it was being viewed at one point (as an audience barrier).

Disney have been slowly edging this way for a while really, it's definitely not all animated bunnies even at this point, it makes sense as the next step in evolving into having all sorts of media and target audiences catered to.

Toy Soldier 15-12-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 9739967)
Rylan to be replaced by Goofy?

Goofy to be replaced by Rylan :omgno:

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images.../15/ryoofy.jpg

James 16-12-2017 01:07 AM

The R rating (in the US) does reduce box office though, like with Blade Runner 2049 this year. Generally the budgets given to them are lower, because the audience that can see them is more limited. A lot of adults don't have time to go to the cinema, unless it is to take their children to a family-friendly film, hence children's animations being such a big deal now for film-companies.

Sometimes you get a breakout horror film that does well, and also R-rated comedies can do well.

Rob! 16-12-2017 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9740008)
Goofy to be replaced by Rylan :omgno:

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images.../15/ryoofy.jpg

:joker:

Toy Soldier 17-12-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 9741007)
The R rating (in the US) does reduce box office though, like with Blade Runner 2049 this year. Generally the budgets given to them are lower, because the audience that can see them is more limited. A lot of adults don't have time to go to the cinema, unless it is to take their children to a family-friendly film, hence children's animations being such a big deal now for film-companies.

Sometimes you get a breakout horror film that does well, and also R-rated comedies can do well.

Yes, but that thinking lead them to start making PG-13 sequels / remakes of classic R-rated properties thinking that it was a recipe for success... but the vast majority of the time, the films (deservedly) get panned by audiences and critics. I think they've started to accept that if you want to make a critically acclaimed sequel to a classic R-rated franchise... you have to make it for adults.

Glenn-C 18-12-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prue Wreath (Post 9738737)
Worth pointing out that Disney have now acquired Endemol Shine, who created Big Brother UK

So what you're saying is Nikki Grahame is a Disney princess?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...cess_Nikki.jpg

Mitchell 18-12-2017 11:31 PM

Princess Nikki to kiss the frog?

arista 27-02-2018 01:14 PM

Comcast challenges 21st Century Fox with £22.1bn Sky interest
 
https://news.sky.com/story/comcast-c...y-bid-11269412

Now a 2nd bid, after Disney , is in for BSkyB
Sky Shares have gone up , of course


[Comcast said its possible all-cash offer
of £12.50 per Sky share represented
a premium of 16% on the current Fox terms,
which value Sky at £18.5bn.]

arista 14-06-2018 01:38 PM

$71 Billion from Disney leaves Comcast behind for 21stCentury Fox and Sky UK
 
Comcast 65 Billion dollars,
now its up to Disney to go above that
or pull out.


[The cable giant says its cash bid - of $35 per share - for most of Fox's assets is 19% higher than the value of Disney's offer.]

SkyNews married to NBC news
maybe,
(ref: CNN Money HD)

[The move follows a previous bid being rebuffed last year.
Wednesday's announcement comes a day after a US federal judge cleared AT&T's $85bn takeover of Time Warner.
The judge rejected the government's argument the takeover would hurt competition in cable and satellite TV and increase costs to consumers for streaming TV and movies.]

https://e3.365dm.com/18/04/1096x616/...20180425122023

https://news.sky.com/story/comcast-6...r-fox-11404074


Sign Of The Times

Maru 14-06-2018 09:36 PM

Sooooo... does this mean that Fox News will go liberal? :laugh: No? Is that how it works with parent companies? I have no clue. I'm no expert on building massive media empires... sorry

arista 14-06-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10040556)
Sooooo... does this mean that Fox News will go liberal? :laugh: No? Is that how it works with parent companies? I have no clue. I'm no expert on building massive media empires... sorry


No FoxNews
is not part of the deal.

Maru 14-06-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10040599)
No FoxNews
is not part of the deal.

Who owns Fox News?

arista 14-06-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10040604)
Who owns Fox News?


Rupert Murdoch

James 14-06-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10040604)
Who owns Fox News?

It's part of 21st Century Fox, controlled by the Murdochs, but they would keep it (and the Fox local US channels) if the rest of the company is sold to Disney or Comcast. I'm not sure the deal would be allowed to go through otherwise.

Maru 15-06-2018 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10040607)
Rupert Murdoch

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10040681)
It's part of 21st Century Fox, controlled by the Murdochs, but they would keep it (and the Fox local US channels) if the rest of the company is sold to Disney or Comcast. I'm not sure the deal would be allowed to go through otherwise.

Yeah I had thought Murdoch was tied to all that, but don't really remember the details of how exactly that works... interesting.

arista 20-06-2018 08:12 PM

Wow
Disney now has put $71 Billion offer in


https://news.sky.com/story/disney-ra...713bn-11411067


Feel The Force

arista 20-06-2018 08:17 PM

From CNN MONEY HD LIVE

Comcast now expected to put in a $80 Billion bid in soon.
21st Century Fox Studios goes to the Winner of the Deal.

Please Note:
FoxNewsHD
FoxBusinessNewsHD
FoxSportsHD
are not for sale in this mega deal.

Glenn. 20-06-2018 08:26 PM

Get ha Disney!


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