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clairefromsomewhereinnort 27-01-2018 10:59 PM

Is Age and Generation an excuse for Widdicombes bigoted beliefs ?
 
I d say not because there aren t many in Ann s generation as bigoted as her.

Brillopad 27-01-2018 11:02 PM

Is age an excuse for controlling ignorance.

Underscore 27-01-2018 11:02 PM

No.

Lilac hills 27-01-2018 11:03 PM

Who cares she’s more interesting than anyone else in there

Marsh. 27-01-2018 11:03 PM

It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.

poppsywoppsy 27-01-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by clairefromsomewhereinnort (Post 9828114)
I d say not because there aren t many in Ann s generation as bigoted as her.

I would say, you don't know what you are talking about.

How many more bashing Ann threads are you going to start.

Jase. 27-01-2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9828128)
It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.

This.

Jack_ 27-01-2018 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9828123)
Who cares she’s more interesting than anyone else in there

Correct, but that doesn't negate any serious discussion about her views. She can be both a great housemate and a terrible person, the two are always mutually exclusive no matter who it is

Lilac hills 27-01-2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9828139)
Correct, but that doesn't negate any serious discussion about her views. She can be both a great housemate and a terrible person, the two are always mutually exclusive no matter who it is

Sure but there have been like 10000 threads on this already Were all just going round in circles

T* 27-01-2018 11:07 PM

she's a terrible human being and age is no excuse, it's not hard.

Jack_ 27-01-2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9828142)
Sure but there have been like 10000 threads on this already Were all just going round in circles

That's on season for you

Jase. 27-01-2018 11:07 PM

I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes :umm2:

Lilac hills 27-01-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 9828145)
I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes :umm2:

I mean yeah relative to every other season she’s been very boring

But this is cbb21 we’re talking about

Literally nothing happens

You really start to appreciate the finer things, she’d fall into insignificance in a house with any more than 1other good housemate

lewis111 27-01-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 9828145)
I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes :umm2:

She's been the only one since India left to cause any sort of conflict this series

Jack_ 27-01-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 9828145)
I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes :umm2:

That's literally why she's a good housemate though. The eye rolling, the prudishness and the self-censorship some of the housemates have felt around her are all AWFUL traits that I find annoying in a person, but in a pretty drab series she's been one of the only causes of tension because of it.

People who are difficult to live with usually make the best housemates

GoldHeart 27-01-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9828129)
I would say, you don't know what you are talking about.

How many more bashing Ann threads are you going to start.

There's an obsession :bored:

Tom4784 27-01-2018 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9828128)
It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.

Sums up what I think tbh.

rusticgal 27-01-2018 11:40 PM

It's hard to train a persons way of thinking when they have grown up in a generation that finds certain things unacceptable.
Ann has tolerated it to some extent...her eye rolling says it all though. Maybe it's not an excuse...but as much as we expect Ann to accept it and understand it..shouldnt we give her the same understanding and accept that it's very much a generation thing?

Marsh. 27-01-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9828207)
It's hard to train a persons way of thinking when they have grown up in a generation that finds certain things unacceptable.
Ann has tolerated it to some extent...her eye rolling says it all though. Maybe it's not an excuse...but as much as we expect Ann to accept it and understand it..shouldnt we give her the same understanding and accept that it's very much a generation thing?

I don't think anyone hasn't accepted they're her opinions and are formed via a different life experience, as are everyones. However, that doesn't give her the immunity from having her opinions and views questioned and examined by others. Particularly as, as a politician, her views are very much public.

It's not only her entitled to her views.

Tom4784 27-01-2018 11:46 PM

All people are allowed to have their views, other people are allowed to critique those views or anyone's views.

Ann is entitled to her homophobic views, everyone else is entitled to comment on their views. Age or generation is not a shield from criticism.

Yaki da 27-01-2018 11:48 PM

She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.

Paula D 28-01-2018 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 9828226)
She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.

Well said, I've tried saying it over and over.

People don't get the irony of insisting that everyone hate someone because of their views and lifestyle.

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Marsh. 28-01-2018 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 9828226)
She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.

Just like racists "simply have a different opinion".

Your statement has the depth of a puddle.

smudgie 28-01-2018 12:28 AM

Not entirely her age or her generation, more to do with her religion.
A mixture of all three give her a different view on it all, she doesn't like PDA's in general, again can be put down to all three.
I dont think she is anti homosexuals so much as the sanctity of marriage being for a man and a woman. She has said herself what goes on behind closed doors is not a problem to her.
If that is a bigoted view then so be it, but could the same be said for anyone discounting her right to those views based on her religion?
As long as she hadn't made a personal or malicious attack verbally or otherwise whilst in the house then I can't fault her as a housemate.

Yaki da 28-01-2018 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9828302)
Just like racists "simply have a different opinion".

Another word like "Homophobe" that has no objective meaning and is used to suppress dissenting views on certain issues.

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Your statement has the depth of a puddle.
Whereas yours was full of profound insights.


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